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| Quote ="bewareshadows"To be fair, all 3 could be equally exciting, although Walmsley and Manu are the big names for me. Turner could be but I think we have more unanswered questions over turner, were as Manu comes with a big rep and Walmsley has very little to loose.
He could be storming he could be so so.'"
Indeed that's the summary I would give all three too.
Manu - We know what he can do and just how good he can be.
Turner - Has shown flashes of brilliance but also has known frailties within his game, hes contribution will no doubt depend on NB's ability to bring the best out of him
Walmsley - Largely unknown but we do know how he plays and what he's capable of. The question over him is can he step up a la Chris Hill. If he does he could be a sensational signing on a very low chunk of the salary cap.
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| Turner will cause us excitement. It may not be pleasurable excitement. Maybe that sort of excitement you got when someone ran at #JF22, or put a bomb up for him, or told him he had a hair out of place.
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| Walmsley for me - he's a young English lad who seems to have bags of potential and really caused a stir at the level he played at last year - can he step up nobody knows but the prospect is exciting!
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| Judging by his tweets we'll either have to find Walmsley a house in St Helens or another club. He's already moaning about the travelling and it's only his second week.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Judging by his tweets we'll either have to find Walmsley a house in St Helens or another club. He's already moaning about the travelling and it's only his second week.'"
That's NOT good start!
Shouldn't he be excited about his chance at 'The Big Time' - I'm a little dissapointed!
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| Willie Manu - I genuinely believe he's the best signing we've made in about 5 years.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Judging by his tweets we'll either have to find Walmsley a house in St Helens or another club. He's already moaning about the travelling and it's only his second week.'"
He was hardly moaning, these are his tweets:
Quote ="Alex Walmsley"So I've moved like 50 metres in 20mins...must be a really bad crash ahead... #latefortraining'"
Quote ="Alex Walmsley"Ha thanks for all the traffic advice... On some random road through Bury at the moment... I WILL get to training #determined #butlost'"
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"He was hardly moaning, these are his tweets:
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That's just today. There have probably been two a day, I remember one about the minging traffic on the M62 and him being starving and another about the Stone Roses being the only thing keeping him sane on his 90 minute journeys.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"That's just today. There have probably been two a day, I remember one about the minging traffic on the M62 and him being starving and another about the Stone Roses being the only thing keeping him sane on his 90 minute journeys.'"
Fair enough, I'm not particularly a twitter user so haven't seen those tweets.
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| I'm most excited about Manu, I've been a fan of him from the first time I saw him when he was at cas.
I'm also interested to see Walmsley gets on, I like to see a guy from the lower league get a shot at super league. I don't think we sign enough or even ool for players from the lower leagues.
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| I looking forward to seeing Manu in action hopefully will get lots of ball be intresting to see who brown starts in the backrow
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"Offloads...... errr nope.'"
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| Manu, i dont expect massive things from Walmesly this year, he'll need to get used to superleague first
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Judging by his tweets we'll either have to find Walmsley a house in St Helens or another club. He's already moaning about the travelling and it's only his second week.'"
I'm not surprised. It can't be fun travelling over the m62 on your own everyday.
According to twitter, I think he is gonna be travelling to oldham and getting on the 'oldham bus' and then travelling with Yates and Greenwood.
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| I don't expect anything much from Walmersley for some time. It would be unfair to liken him to Chris Hill as there is quite an age gap. Hill was a mature player when joining super league; whereas Walmersley is a novice in comparison. I have great expectations from Manu and if Perry can produce anything like his Aussie form (we live in hope) then the forwards should be more than capable of bossing the middle.
Turner is a bigish lad with a good turn of speed and if Brown can iron out his faults he will be an exiting prospect.
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| Looking forward to seeing them all play.
To choose one though, it would have to be Manu. Devastating at hull and will give us lots of go forward and offloads.
I want to see Turner play to see if his defence can be improved. If so we will have a very good Centre.
Walmsley will need this season to settle in, so I don't expect much game time other than against the lower teams.
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| Quote ="redex113"I don't expect anything much from Walmersley for some time. It would be unfair to liken him to Chris Hill as there is quite an age gap. Hill was a mature player when joining super league; whereas Walmersley is a novice in comparison. '"
Exactly the point I was going to make.
Let's not put too much pressure on the lad...obvious comparisons with Hill, but different ages and different levels of experience. He's only just gone full time.
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| Quote ="Albion"Exactly the point I was going to make.
Let's not put too much pressure on the lad...obvious comparisons with Hill, but different ages and different levels of experience. He's only just gone full time.'"
If others are of the same viewpoint as me, I'm also not expecting to see him making England in his first season. I'm just looking forward to see his progression over his contractual period to see how he develops.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"If others are of the same viewpoint as me, I'm also not expecting to see him making England in his first season. I'm just looking forward to see his progression over his contractual period to see how he develops.'"
It would be stupid for anyone to expect him to make the England squad this coming season. He will probably play a dozen or so games, from the bench, against lower opposition. He will only play against top opposition due to injuries. It has to be understood that the gulf between Championship and Super league is vast and it will take at least a season to settle and get up to pace. He has also stepped up from part time so it will take time to build up fitness levels. We may start to see signs towards the back end of the season.
If he gets game time and starts playing very well then great, but this should not be expected this season. Talk of England is at best premature.
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| Quote ="Top Saint"It would be stupid for anyone to expect him to make the England squad this coming season. He will probably play a dozen or so games, from the bench, against lower opposition. He will only play against top opposition due to injuries. It has to be understood that the gulf between Championship and Super league is vast and it will take at least a season to settle and get up to pace. He has also stepped up from part time so it will take time to build up fitness levels. We may start to see signs towards the back end of the season.
If he gets game time and starts playing very well then great, but this should not be expected this season. Talk of England is at best premature.'"
I think you completely misunderstood my reference of England, it was intended as an over emphasis. Either that or I misunderstood yours.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"I think you completely misunderstood my reference of England, it was intended as an over emphasis. Either that or I misunderstood yours.'"
Actually, I was agreeing with you and reinforcing your point. Others within the forums seem to be expecting far too much far too soon.
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| Quote ="Top Saint"Actually, I was agreeing with you and reinforcing your point. Others within the forums seem to be expecting far too much far too soon.'"
Looks like I completely misunderstood yours then.
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| I,m suprised we have not given Turner more expectation. It was my understanding that he couldn,t handle all the travelling to Hull.
If he is in a settled environment here and Brown gets to work on him, i reckon he will be a much improved player, he can also play stand off so I believe.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"I,m suprised we have not given Turner more expectation. It was my understanding that he couldn,t handle all the travelling to Hull.
If he is in a settled environment here and Brown gets to work on him, i reckon he will be a much improved player, he can also play stand off so I believe.'"
It's easier to rely on the assessment of bitter Hull fans (who largely only voiced such assessment once it was announced he was leaving for Saints) and already assume he is going to be a failure.
That way, you can spend each game eagerly anticipating any error he makes (while ignoring similar errors from your current favourites) so that you can blame McManus' poor recruitment / Brown's poor coaching etc.
If he doesn't make any mistakes, never mind, there's always Meli.
Personally, I'm really excited to have some pace and power in the centres and will judge him on his performances for Saints.
Potentially 3 top signings.
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| Manu has got the no 13 shirt and I think he should play from the loose forward position and not second row. He has plenty of experience and he could create some kind of partnership with the not so healthy half back scenario.
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