Utter rubbish!! The biggest pile of $hit I've seen wrote on here!!!!

His defence was good!

And you say over rated? More like under rated.

He should have been a regular for GB.

The only thing he didn't have was pace.

And you think he over rated because he played bad once?

He was never good enough for Great Britain, that's why he wasn't picked.
Your correct about his lack of pace, and he was a poor defender.

=rednot allowed, sorry. tm - tl

Back in your hole rogues...

He ripped Wigan apart loads of times. 9/10 when playing Wigan he had a stormer. Remember his hatrick, of which he scored the winning try at JJB.

He was a top class player but the lack of pace stopped him being world class.

Even though he lacked pace he still scored some 50 meter trys.

I seem to recall him kicking the ball football style against the pies for bout 40 meters but nobody beat him to the line.

Sorry rogues but tommy was the best 6 in super league during his time at saints.

He tried different things.

Didn't the pies claim he knocked on?

Didn't tommy score the last try at centrel park?

Not even good as Ainscoughs at Harlequins this season though.

How many caps did terrible Tommy get?
he was another Lee briers, flattered to deceive, and just like Briers couldn't tackle.

And that's why NO coach ever picked him for England or GB.

The ball was knocked out, and he tried to regather the ball but completely missed it, it bounced, he picked it up, straight under the sticks. Think we won 30-28.

And unlike Briers, has plenty of medals.

Yes, for the losing side.

He was a leyther, we had to humour him.

He actually came very close to signing for Wigan, Ellery Hanley saw his defensive deficiencies and wanted rid.

Thank god he never came.

Belter of a pass, that.

All you bang on about is playing for the country!!!

All them young lads Wigan let go ain't good players because they don't play for the country

Is feka any good?

Phelps?

Bailey?

Smith?

Piggy?

Then you got fielden and hock who don't get picked now also gleeson gets dropped regular.

You can't always measure how good players are buy if they play for there country.

He didn't knock on as the try was awarded!

It's great to know a saints player scored the last try at central park.

Ah, is [ithat[/i the reason for Rogues' bitterness? He's usually so balanced as well, for a Pie. He's still hurting, isn't he? Bless.

Tommy actually got picked for the GB squad on at least one occasion but had to pull out through injury.

It was sometimes said by people that Tommy couldnt tackle, however i well remember him making over 40 tackles in one match.
He was also the last true exponent of the cumberland throw, a martial art tackle that no players today know how to execute.

He is one of the top 3 British halves ive seen, the others being Scofield and Tony Myler.

The main reason for the biterness is because Tommy spoiled the party and was the last points scorer ever at Central Park.


That's the main reason, even though they won't admit it.

Not true.

I never rated him, neither did Ellery Hanley, and neither did any GB/ England coach.

Now, you can accuse me of bias (which of course I'm not) but how do you explain the others?

Leon Pryce is by far a better player than Martyn ever was.

Well maybe thats why we weren't successful at internationals?

Hanley never rated Martyn (probably because Martyn made a statue out of him in the CC Semi before he did his knee), [uand Hanley paid the price for it.[/u Tommy had more skill under his left fingernail than Edwards ever possessed.

By Lee Gilmour if I recall correctly.

yes and yes

If he had have done you'd be on here waxing lyrical about him [iad nauseum[/i.

Yeah Ellery's Tricky Trindall plan was a far better option





Martyn was all class, great player.

Martyn was a very underated player and but for injuries at crucial times (two bionic knees) would have played for GB. He did play for Ireland though so he is an international.


Regarding his partnership with Long it was one of the best I have seen. The pair really clicked on the field bar the odd off day which every player has from time to time. Tommy's 40 /20's were super.