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| Given Lance's decent and honourable nature I think he would prefer not to pursue this matter. But a lot depends on his current medical condition and future prospects. The latter appear bleak - certainly from a player's perspective. Although he may have business interests of his own.
One thing's for sure, he'll have a train of lawyers following him around like a princess has suitors.
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| Obviously you've never read the Red Vee board and the vile comments they put on there about the Wigan coach and players, both these sites WWFans and R-V attract some very immature people,
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| The problem any defence lawyer has in a civil case is THAT VIDEO. Even if the medical evidence isn't a hundred percent convincing - in the hands of an artful rhetorician (and you can bet anyone taking this on will be first class) that video represents a home run just begging to be hit.
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| So whats the story with the players not wishing him well on Twitter? There has been almost radio silence from the players since the announcement yesterday, which is odd as they are usually on it all the time. Hohaia has also been deleted from the SL stats page, which doesn't usually happen.
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| Quote ="Mugwump"The problem any defence lawyer has in a civil case is THAT VIDEO. Even if the medical evidence isn't a hundred percent convincing - in the hands of an artful rhetorician (and you can bet anyone taking this on will be first class) that video represents a home run just begging to be hit.'"
I think its available in HD,3D with surround sound to. If it went to court the jury would retire for about 30 seconds.
I hope Lance does take it further and as a gesture of good will Wigan should pay out the remained of Lances contract. its what 6 months left on it so it wont be big bucks.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"So whats the story with the players not wishing him well on Twitter? There has been almost radio silence from the players since the announcement yesterday, which is odd as they are usually on it all the time. Hohaia has also been deleted from the SL stats page, which doesn't usually happen.'"
From what you say, I have the distinct feeling the full ins and outs of Hohaia's retirement have not seen the light of day yet. The official Saints announcement, especially this "St Helens will make no further comment on this matter." seems a little cool. If it is totally about a concussion injury i do not understand why that would be. As others have said, he has to look to his long term health above everything else and I wish him well in what ever it is he decides to do next.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"So whats the story with the players not wishing him well on Twitter? There has been almost radio silence from the players since the announcement yesterday, which is odd as they are usually on it all the time. Hohaia has also been deleted from the SL stats page, which doesn't usually happen.'"
Does seem strange, but then again I suppose he hasn't gone yet.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"So whats the story with the players not wishing him well on Twitter? There has been almost radio silence from the players since the announcement yesterday, which is odd as they are usually on it all the time. Hohaia has also been deleted from the SL stats page, which doesn't usually happen.'"
Its not rocket science, is it?
The players, from all teams, have an unspoken rule of what happens on the field stays on the field, and most are more than likely disgusted that he is considering a legal challenge on a fellow player. But you can tell he I that sort of guy just by looking at him, and with the help of a couple of ambulance chasers he's going to try his luck, after all, its downhill from now on, no-one else is likely to take him on.
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| Quote ="wigginswarrior"Its not rocket science, is it?
The players, from all teams, have an unspoken rule of what happens on the field stays on the field, and most are more than likely disgusted that he is considering a legal challenge on a fellow player. But you can tell he I that sort of guy just by looking at him, and with the help of a couple of ambulance chasers he's going to try his luck, after all, its downhill from now on, no-one else is likely to take him on.'"
One of the stupidest and vilest posts from a clueless no-mark that I've ever seen. Congratulations for demonstrating your shameless idiocy in such a spectacularly obvious way.
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| Quote ="wigginswarrior"Its not rocket science, is it?
The players, from all teams, have an unspoken rule of what happens on the field stays on the field, and most are more than likely disgusted that he is considering a legal challenge on a fellow player. But you can tell he I that sort of guy just by looking at him, and with the help of a couple of ambulance chasers he's going to try his luck, after all, its downhill from now on, no-one else is likely to take him on.'"
Well everybody we all know there are Wigan Fans and there are Wigoon Fans, this is a prime example of a ……………………..….[size=150 .WIGOON[/size fan.
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| Quote ="wigginswarrior"Its not rocket science, is it?
The players, from all teams, have an unspoken rule of what happens on the field stays on the field, and most are more than likely disgusted that he is considering a legal challenge on a fellow player. But you can tell he I that sort of guy just by looking at him, and with the help of a couple of ambulance chasers he's going to try his luck, after all, its downhill from now on, no-one else is likely to take him on.'"
Keep your deconstruction of character, to cherry and white, where the rest of the low life's live.
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| Quote ="wigginswarrior"Its not rocket science, is it?
The players, from all teams, have an unspoken rule of what happens on the field stays on the field, and most are more than likely disgusted that he is considering a legal challenge on a fellow player. But you can tell he I that sort of guy just by looking at him, and with the help of a couple of ambulance chasers he's going to try his luck, after all, its downhill from now on, no-one else is likely to take him on.'"
I bet your family tree resembles a stump.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"So whats the story with the players not wishing him well on Twitter? There has been almost radio silence from the players since the announcement yesterday, which is odd as they are usually on it all the time. Hohaia has also been deleted from the SL stats page, which doesn't usually happen.'"
There might be a slant on this that nobody has noticed, as recurrent concussion symptoms are temporary, and should have passed in the 6 months, maybe Lance is aggrieved at the after care he has received from his employers, rather than the incidents leading up to it.
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| Quote ="wigginswarrior"Its not rocket science, is it?
The players, from all teams, have an unspoken rule of what happens on the field stays on the field, and most are more than likely disgusted that he is considering a legal challenge on a fellow player. But you can tell he I that sort of guy just by looking at him, and with the help of a couple of ambulance chasers he's going to try his luck, after all, its downhill from now on, no-one else is likely to take him on.'"
Your correct, it's not rocket science. The players wished him well in person as mates do.
Also, what proof have you got that he is considering legal action? Maybe you should wait for facts before writing disgusting posts with no facts.
What utter BS that players have a rule that it stays on the pitch. Who decided that? Do all pros sign this unofficial disclaimer ?
If Ben flower has ended his career from that assault and took future earnings away from him and his familly then maybe HES entitled to feel hard done by. If someone at your work ( im guessing you work) assaulted you and you couidnt do your job ever again and lost lots of money would you day " what happened at work stays there?"
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| Quote ="Barnesy"There might be a slant on this that nobody has noticed, as recurrent concussion symptoms are temporary, and should have passed in the 6 months, maybe Lance is aggrieved at the after care he has received from his employers, rather than the incidents leading up to it.'"
Whilst he's suffering still from concussion symptoms, if he should suffer a 2nd concussion during this time, he could suffer a permanent disabling brain injury. He clearly needed time out of the game to recover. He's no doubt weighed this decision up with knowing he'd be retiring soon anyway. It would be foolish to risk his longterm health in the latter stages of his career.
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| I would hazard a guess that there's far more to this than meets the eye when you consider this from just 2 weeks ago: [urlhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/32321061[/url
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"I would hazard a guess that there's far more to this than meets the eye when you consider this from just 2 weeks ago: [urlhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/32321061[/url'"
Have you read that link ? He doesn't even mention the NRL.
Very misleading headline.
I was told weeks ago that leaving the game was most likely as he's moving to the US with his wife. Whether these symptoms are a part of that remains to be seen.
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| Quote ="SLS"Have you read that link ? He doesn't even mention the NRL.
Very misleading headline.
I was told weeks ago that leaving the game was most likely as he's moving to the US with his wife. Whether these symptoms are a part of that remains to be seen.'"
Yeah, I was more referring to "I've no concrete plans in place as yet, we're still just enjoying the season and the summer months that are coming ahead.
"I haven't made any definitive decisions on the future just yet."
From that it appears that he had no intentions to retire just 2 weeks later. I take your point though.
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| Quote ="theblondebomber"I think this proves the point that none of us actually knows what goes on behind closed doors
I normally don’t post much on here I just tent to read and see opinions but here’s my view.
When I heard the news last night I was fuming inside. I have never hated Wigan until now. Their thugary is criminal, their ground situation is pathetic, their fans treat flower like a hero. I have lost all respect for them now and reading some of the crap that is on cherry and white is ridiculous. I’m at the point where I don’t even care about the upcoming derby score line as long as we get involved. I hope we cage up Mose and feed him raw meat for the next few weeks. If I was Wane Flower would not play in the derby. I’m sick of Wigan dragging RL through the mud.'"
Still waiting for news on how flower caused lance to retire
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| Quote ="Itchy Arsenal"Still waiting for news on how flower caused lance to retire'"
Still waiting for Lance to sue which is what our Wigan posters equally expected to happen.
By the way don't forget we over this side of the lump are obsessed with all things Wigan so good of you to resurrect this.........
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| Revenge is served cold I fully expect a claim just when the thug Flower least expects it. The reality remains that Fliwer should have been arrested at ghd time and it remains s blight on GMP that not one of their officers felt if within their remit to enter the field of play to effect an arrest. For clarity Ben Clower has blocked me on Twitter as he couldn't cope with this debate.
He remains and always will be an absolute coward.
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| Quote ="Legman"Revenge is served cold I fully expect a claim just when the thug Flower least expects it. The reality remains that Fliwer should have been arrested at ghd time and it remains s blight on GMP that not one of their officers felt if within their remit to enter the field of play to effect an arrest. For clarity Ben Clower has blocked me on Twitter as he couldn't cope with this debate.
He remains and always will be an absolute coward.'"
So someone blocking you on Twitter for abusive behaviour makes someone a coward?
Good to know.
As for this situation, sadly for you guys the onus is on St Helens RLFC.
They played Hohaia when he was suffering from post concussion symptoms. Any legal professional would have a field day with that in court.
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| Well I guess this thread is a nice distraction for the Wiganers, from their own immediate concerns.
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| Quote ="P-J"
They played Hohaia when he was suffering from post concussion symptoms. Any legal professional would have a field day with that in court.'"
Do you think Be Flower could also sue for damages on the basis of extended stress due to Hohaia carrying on with post concussion.
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| Good to see a certain section of Wigan fans showing their ignorance of: the situation itself, concussion and the law. And managing to do all of that in just 2 lines!
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