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| Quote ="Northampton_Saint"You have to laugh at the numpties who'd rather we kept Dixon instead of signing Manu, you really do. Bless their clueless, empty little minds...
The only issue is his age, but a 2 year contract is just about right. A good bit of business by Saints, and the inexorable march towards an awesome, old, overseas pack and mediocre, young, domestic backline continues apace. I wonder what style of play we'll be aiming for next season...'"
It's frightening, isn't it.
Although, I do suspect that some are simply holding this line as it allows them to gather more 'evidence' to support criticism of the current regime (board, coach, appointment of future coach etc).
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| Hull offered him a 3 year deal and a deal to make him one of the best paid players at the club.
Do those questioning us offering him a two year deal believe they are more knowledgable than the people running both Hull FC and Saints?
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| Quote ="on_the_charge"I cant believe the numpties who think signing over the hill players and letting go of young talent is the sign of good business sense????'"
It's not all about business, it's primarily about winning rugby matches. You have to have a balance in a squad.
By your notion, we should release all the senior players and replace them with players from the academy who have 15 years ahead of them and will not want more than £19,999 per season. Brilliant.
Hopefully Wellens will be leaving this season, Meli and Flannery as well. By my reckoning that leaves us with Manu, Puletua, Laffranchi and Perry who are 'old'. I don't see a problem with that as they are all forwards. Sia, Flanagan, Roby, LMS etc are all relatively young. Forwards come into their prime at 30 very often, like centre backs and keepers in football. You don't need to start panicking about a player's age just because they are over 30. As mentioned Manu is spring footed and looks very lively for his age.
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| Quote ="Albion"How is he 'over the hill'?'"
At 32 years old his best years are well and truly behind him. I dont believe signing 30 year old plus players on long contracts is the way forward for Saints. Dont get me wrong Manu has been a excellent back rower but I would have preffered Andrew Dixon to be signed up and strengthen other areas of the team that need urgent attention....
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| Quote ="on_the_charge"I cant believe the numpties who think signing over the hill players and letting go of young talent is the sign of good business sense????'"
Dixon's an average plodder, nothing more. We produce half a dozen of them every season. Manu is a top, top player the likes of which there are very few of in the game right now. An absolute no brainer. Don't be so utterly preposterous.
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| Good signing, a bit of a risk but if it comes off the pack will be monstrous next year.
The only thing that annoys me is the 'over 30' policy which saw us let Gilmour go years too early seems to have been discarded. I'm glad it we have learned our lesson.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"It's not all about business, it's primarily about winning rugby matches. You have to have a balance in a squad.
By your notion, we should release all the senior players and replace them with players from the academy who have 15 years ahead of them and will not want more than £19,999 per season. Brilliant.
Hopefully Wellens will be leaving this season, Meli and Flannery as well. By my reckoning that leaves us with Manu, Puletua, Laffranchi and Perry who are 'old'. I don't see a problem with that as they are all forwards. Sia, Flanagan, Roby, LMS etc are all relatively young. Forwards come into their prime at 30 very often, like centre backs and keepers in football. You don't need to start panicking about a player's age just because they are over 30. As mentioned Manu is spring footed and looks very lively for his age.'"
If these people ran an F1 team then they'd put Minis out on the track every race on the basis that they were English made, cheap and had more potential for their speed to be improved than an expensive F1 car which was already as fast as it was ever going to get.
It would be funny if it wasn't so tragic....
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| no doubt eddie and stevo will be daft over his departure from fc..maybe he'll get the plaudits he deserves now hes at a "big" club...as he never got them whilst he was here
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| Sad to see him go but a fantastic signing for you lot. To be honest when I first heard he was leaving, I thought that I'd rather him go to you than any other club in SL as I'm a bit of a closet Saints fan . Good luck to him in the future and hope he carries on ripping the Hull KR defence apart
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| Quote ="Airliebird94"Sad to see him go but a fantastic signing for you lot. [size=200To be honest when I first heard he was leaving, I thought that I'd rather him go to you than any other club in SL as I'm a bit of a closet Saints fan
[/size . Good luck to him in the future and hope he carries on ripping the Hull KR defence apart
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ive never heard anything quite like it the mind boggles
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"ive never heard anything quite like it
the mind boggles'"
Haha, I mean it like... I prefer Saints to most clubs other than FC. Of course I wanted him to stay, but when I heard he was definitely leaving, I thought that I'd rather him go to Saints than the likes of Leeds, Wigan and Rovers.
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| Quote ="Airliebird94"Haha, I mean it like... I prefer Saints to most clubs other than FC. Of course I wanted him to stay, but when I heard he was definitely leaving, I thought that I'd rather him go to Saints than the likes of Leeds, Wigan and Rovers.'"
So he's basically left one second rate club to join another....class move
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| Quote ="hatty"So he's basically left one second rate club to join another....class move
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| Quote ="hatty"So he's basically left one second rate club to join another....class move
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| Quote ="Cragganmore Kid"Although, I do suspect that some are simply holding this line as it allows them to gather more 'evidence' to support criticism of the current regime (board, coach, appointment of future coach etc).'"
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| It's one of the best signings we've made in years in my view. We're crying out for some good attacking players who will scare teams and Manu will do just that.
If you look at his stats, he is an all round package - 2nd most tackle busts in the league, high up in the offloading stats (something we severely lack IMO), yet his defensive stats and workrate are also fantastic - almost 400 tackles made this season.
He's missed 3 games in 3 years, so despite his age time hasn't caught up with him yet and he still offers alot. He's a fantastic signing IMO, over the moon we've got him.
One for Saintsfan - he was a year before you started watching but we had a player called Paul Anderson who was 33 when he signed for us. He was brilliant for Bradford, but lost his way in the last 18 months. Saints took a punt on him because we needed some size and impact and he was sensational for us.
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| Quote ="Blobbynator"It's one of the best signings we've made in years in my view. We're crying out for some good attacking players who will scare teams and Manu will do just that.
If you look at his stats, he is an all round package - 2nd most tackle busts in the league, high up in the offloading stats (something we severely lack IMO), yet his defensive stats and workrate are also fantastic - almost 400 tackles made this season.
He's missed 3 games in 3 years, so despite his age time hasn't caught up with him yet and he still offers alot. He's a fantastic signing IMO, over the moon we've got him.
One for Saintsfan - he was a year before you started watching but we had a player called Paul Anderson who was 33 when he signed for us. He was brilliant for Bradford, but lost his way in the last 18 months. Saints took a punt on him because we needed some size and impact and he was sensational for us.'"
Can Manu kick goals as well???????
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"icon_lol.gif'"
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| A backrow of Soliola, Manu with Wilkin loose forward is a pretty frightening prospect for opposition teams.
What makes it even more impressive is that you can then bring Puletua on from the bench who can wreck havoc in midfield.
All we need now are some pacey threequarters.
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| Quote ="Blobbynator"One for Saintsfan - he was a year before you started watching but we had a player called Paul Anderson who was 33 when he signed for us. He was brilliant for Bradford, but lost his way in the last 18 months. Saints took a punt on him because we needed some size and impact and he was sensational for us.'"
Wasn't Paul Anderson a prop? I don't know; I'm just asking. If Manu had been a feisty prop I'd be doing dances in the street as that is just what we need and I wouldn't care whether he was 32 or 102. What we don't need is a 32 year old back row forward. IMO, obviously.
I have watched Anderson kick his only conversion though. Who hasn't seen that gem of RL footage?
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| Quote ="Cragganmore Kid"You don't agree?'"
No.
I think you at Pete have a weird obsession.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"No.
I think you at Pete have a weird obsession.'"
Me? What we talking about here?
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| with 2 years instead of 3, a good signing becomes a great one. awesome work by Mr Big
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