Super League Grand Final win/loss record:

Saints: 4/5
Warrington: 0/0

Challenge Cup Final win/loss record in the SL era:

Saints: 7/1
Warrington: 2/0

You've been in 2 finals. We've been in 17. You've won 2... [size=200=#FF0000[u[i2[/i[/u [/sizeplayoff games [size=150[u[iever[/i[/u[/size!!!!!! Not 2 last season. 2 =#FF0000[iever[/i!!!!! [size=200EVER[/size!!!!! We've won... loads.... (Can't be d working it out).

Any analysis of who is the loser club of the 2 is hardly difficult or inconclusive, is it?





I know you support a basketcase embarassing pitiful little ****ant nonentity of a club that we've frankly become bored of crushing contemptuously beneath our wheels at Saints for decades now and need a little bit of self-delusion to get over your enormous inferiority complex etc. but at least keep it vaguely within the bounds of credibility...

I know you're worthy of nought but derision, pity and ignorance but sod it I'll fight the troll on this one just for a laugh, eh?

Wow, man, you need to de-stress. I have heard of some massage parlors but I have never frequented them myslef, I recommend you give them a go. Tell me, between me and you, are you so ed off cause Wire gave you a good old thrashing two weeks ago or is it that you can't even beat Wakefield now?

Ancient history means all to a player who has only got a 10, maybe 15 year career. Wire has won 3 trophies in 3 years. Saints have 3 trophies in, what, 5 or six years? WArrington are in the challenge cup final this year. Saints are struggling to beat any of their nearest rivals and teams such as Bradford and Wakefeild... and you want to dispute who is the healthier and appealing club?

If we are going off ancient history then why aren't Cas and Widnes signing Benji and Billy from the NRL??? or even Tomkins and Hill??? cause you can win more at Wire and Wigan.

The sun has set on Saints (very brief) period of dominance. Going to old trafford and losing loses it's charm after the 5th time. You must remember what it is like to be in a challenge cup final, right? Imagine playing in one. No chance of anyone in a red V doing that this year, or even next.

Isn't there a certain irony about Saints' fans accusing Wire of breaking the salary cap by use of inducements, when its well known that Saints have 'attracted' young players to their academy by taking them on trips to Australia??....

If I remember correctly: the players themselves have to pay something towards that trip...

Still an inducement though......The size of that inducement doesn't matter, its just handy we have a board member who can provide more enticing bait than many of the other clubs in the league.

You are all being a little hypocritical to suggest we are in the wrong, when its been going on for years and is still going on (not just by Wire).

What is 'it' exactly? What is it Wire are meant to be doing?

Apparently, according to some, offering inducements to players in order to join the club.....I'm open minded on the subject and willing to see evidence of this happening, but at the moment the only definite inducements we seem to have established, is Saints giving cheap holidays to Australia for their Academy squad as inducement to join them rather than other clubs.

It's hardly a 'holiday'!

Lets kick out Catalans then as we can't 'induce' the players with a 'cheap holiday' to France!

Still on the banter?

He still thinks Saints have the best pack in Superleague.

wow...now that was impressive....was it the Wire match or Wakefield that tipped you over the edge?



chin up!

I know I read that as well




Saints are now has beans, finished, washed up, all done & dusted.

There is only one player I would have out of their club the rest would fit perfectly into the Warrington team pre 2009.

No you can't have Paul Wellens.







Hope you don't suffer from premature ejaculation from the plays offs - again.

Has BEENS.

I'm sure we love our beans as well, like, but I figured that if you're going to have a dig, you're better getting it right otherwise you look a bit of a twonk.

I rather think that mantle will be ours this season.

it's never your year, it's never your yeeeaaar, just like the last one, it's never your year,

Got any Brasso you don'y need?

Hardly - this season's been a write-off since about 6 games in and there's nothing that could happen to make it any worse than it has been already from this point in. We all know Saints are several light years behind Warrington in most departments at the moment and just want to get our mullering in the playoffs out of the way now and then forget that the whole pitiful farago ever happened. Just responding in kind to trollishness and baiting that's all - most of my act is affectation at the end of the day matey and I don't [ireally[/i get that wound up

Shhhh! Don't tell anyone though....

I certainly do. By typical Wigan-fan logic I'm guessing that because you've been well beaten by a better team this weekend that every single one of Warrington's players is better than every single one of yours and you need a mass clearout to compete now?

No, but we could do with some extra floor reinforcement to hold up our massive trophy cabinet at the new ground if you've any going spare? The weight of all those dozens and dozens of trophies we have in there is really taking a toll on the foundations you know....

No we've had a hiccup whereas Saints have been vomiting for a lot of the season.

Right, this is a discussion board, not a bickering board.
Straighten it up or there's no point the thread continuing.

We are more famous,successful and simply bigger than Warrington in pretty much every aspect.

Looking at their 'achievements' they've got a long long way to go before they can even think about standing shoulder to shoulder with St Helens RLFC.

your secret is safe with me fella



you never know...now that McGuire is out for the rest of the season you might actually beat Leeds in the G.F.

Yes lets look shall we wire 3 cups in 3 years
saints 0 cups in 3 years

i think 2012 will be a good year to start catch up then