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| Quote ="Blobbynator"Don't tar us all with same brush eld Rogue!'"
Sorry but listen on the video.
5 minutes or less. It did happen.
Even I was shocked.
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| Quote ="roversmad"You recall wrong................Wigan won at JJB last season'"
So you actually believed what I wrote?
Impressive.
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| Quote ="Sthelens RLFC"So you actually believed what I wrote?
Impressive.'"
Are you stupid?
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| Quote ="Code13"Displaying a fine knowledge of the rules of Rugby League there.'"
I learned tonight that penalty tries are no longer awarded. I don't know when that rule was changed. However, it was a great cheating play by Hudds, one of a few actually (including the fake injury in front of the posts, which should have been a sin binning, except the ref is spineless). Steal the ball over the tryline, two men on one, and because there is no penalty try anymore the opposition have avoided the try but the attacking side who would have scored it had it not been for the cheating play, has to go through the whole set again.
Lost my respect a bit tonight did Hudds, with that kind of play. It makes me very glad the knock on that wasn't, was awarded.
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| What fake injury? Potter was annoyed with that too but I obviously missed it.
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| Quote ="Blobbynator"The team NEVER deserves booing off. You don't turn on your team like that under any circumstance IMO.'"
your bleedin jokin mate...if people pay their money they can boo if they want...people say you should get behind the team..theyr'e right with a bloody big box of dynamite or something ..they were awfull again .so you think they should clap and say ..*well played chaps*..the saints cant do no wrong society on here make me smile.....and as for potter he couldnt coach a bleedin infant school's rugby team...a side whose top of the league struggling against nearly an a-team on there own ground its embarrasing..at least we kept one thing going..missed goal kicks again...anyway well done chaps for that e peformance ..ill have to go now i feel a boo coming on...
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| Quote ="Saddened!"What fake injury? Potter was annoyed with that too but I obviously missed it.'"
One of their players pretended to be injured in front of the sticks when they were supposed to be kicking their goal line dropout and the ref didn't stop the clock straight away. Injury clearly pretend because once ref had stopped clock he jogged away no probs. I stand towards the away end so watched what went on and joined in with booing the Hudds players who were clearly playing for time.
They do like their negative games, do Hudds.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"I learned tonight that penalty tries are no longer awarded. I don't know when that rule was changed. However, it was a great cheating play by Hudds, one of a few actually (including the fake injury in front of the posts, which should have been a sin binning, except the ref is spineless). Steal the ball over the tryline, two men on one, and because there is no penalty try anymore the opposition have avoided the try but the attacking side who would have scored it had it not been for the cheating play, has to go through the whole set again.
Lost my respect a bit tonight did Hudds, with that kind of play. It makes me very glad the knock on that wasn't, was awarded.
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I have always thought that over the line the 1 on 1 ball steal shouldn't exist, every man to the pumps to stop the ball being grounded. If the ball had been retained then there would have been no problem, becuase of the way the ball was carried the steal was always going to happen if players tried to stop the grounding.
Maybe the player going for the try should protect the ball better.
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"i didnt know wether to laugh at them booing every 3.7 seconds or cringe in embarrasment because quite frankly thats what the saints fans were tonight !'"
I don't agree with the booing at all as it simply isn't helpful and is disresectful after the glory and the entertainment that the team have provided for years and years.
However what was disgraceful again, from a club on the crest of a wave was your woeful travelling attendance. I bet there was 100 of you if that. Shameful, if you can't get your backsides over the pennines to support your team a week before the cup final then it's time to pack in.
Yes I am aware it was a much weakened team but all the more reason to turn up and support them. Especially as 'your kids' nearly did the business and yet again we showed we are badly out of sorts and vulnerable.
Well played last night, top performance from your guys, but a woeful turnout as always.
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| And there was a massive turn out from the Saints fans was there?
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| Quote ="Big Dave Fairleigh"I don't agree with the booing at all as it simply isn't helpful and is disresectful after the glory and the entertainment that the team have provided for years and years.
However what was disgraceful again, from a club on the crest of a wave was your woeful travelling attendance. I bet there was 100 of you if that. Shameful, if you can't get your backsides over the pennines to support your team a week before the cup final then it's time to pack in.
Yes I am aware it was a much weakened team but all the more reason to turn up and support them. Especially as 'your kids' nearly did the business and yet again we showed we are badly out of sorts and vulnerable.
Well played last night, top performance from your guys, but a woeful turnout as always.'"
and there lies your answer - i would imagine that a week before the cup final that would be people's financial priority...i'm out of work so it is definitely mine.
to be fair though 8,000 for a team with the success Saints have had is quite frankly an embarrasment too, imagine how the players must feel when year after year they bring trophies back and only 8,000 can be bothered to turn up and watch them.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"And there was a massive turn out from the Saints fans was there?'"
Slightly better than previous years actually against Hudds, so jog on.
2008 8,597
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Last night 8708
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"and there lies your answer - i would imagine that a week before the cup final that would be people's financial priority...i'm out of work so it is definitely mine.
to be fair though 8,000 for a team with the success Saints have had is quite frankly an embarrasment too, imagine how the players must feel when year after year they bring trophies back and only 8,000 can be bothered to turn up and watch them.'"
The same Pennines that we travel over regularly to the Galpharm and fill one whole stand behind the sticks. You think St Helens is anymore affluent than Hudds???? Why?
I'm not slagging your home support on this occasion! I don't think half the population of Huddersfield know there way to the M62.
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| I didn't expect Hudds to bring many more than they did to be fair. I think the "week before Wembley" point is a very valid one really if people have to chose between a trip to a league game and a trip to watch there team in the cup final its hardly likely to be a tough call for most!
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| Quote ="Big Dave Fairleigh"The same Pennines that we travel over regularly to the Galpharm and fill one whole stand behind the sticks. You think St Helens is anymore affluent than Hudds???? Why?
I'm not slagging your home support on this occasion! I don't think half the population of Huddersfield know there way to the M62.'"
but compare the fortunes of the 2 clubs over the last 30/40 years - there is no comparison.
We also have to compete with a football team with 12,000 fans for people from our town to watch us.
i am as dissapointed as anyone that our away crowds aren't better, i would love to see more giants fans at away games but till we win things it wont happen !!
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"but compare the fortunes of the 2 clubs over the last 30/40 years - there is no comparison.
We also have to compete with a football team with 12,000 fans for people from our town to watch us.
i am as dissapointed as anyone that our away crowds aren't better, i would love to see more giants fans at away games but till we win things it wont happen !!'"
To be fair to the hudds fans last night, they have a final to pay for and hudds were very honest in saying around 10 first teamers would be out. I can't say i'd have gone to leeds if we were in the same boat.
The only "booing" i'll be doing is at our own fans for booing the team off
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| Quote ="gateaux"I didn't expect Hudds to bring many more than they did to be fair. I think the "week before Wembley" point is a very valid one really if people have to chose between a trip to a league game and a trip to watch there team in the cup final its hardly likely to be a tough call for most!'"
I'm just doing some quality fishing here and letting off some steam after a woeful performance. I've caught a whopper as well.
The fact is that at least he admits that there away support is poor at best. But considering the year they are having it really should be better. It may not last but it's quite likely that Hudds are here to stay as a top 3/4 side if not better. They have quality personnel and youth and speed in abundance.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"To be fair to the hudds fans last night, they have a final to pay for and hudds were very honest in saying around 10 first teamers would be out. I can't say i'd have gone to leeds if we were in the same boat.
The only "booing" i'll be doing is at our own fans for booing the team off
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I'm going to Leeds away and lets be real we are gonna get spanked unless something amazing happens to our form. That's no excuse not to turn up.
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| Quote ="Big Dave Fairleigh"I'm going to Leeds away and lets be real we are gonna get spanked unless something amazing happens to our form. That's no excuse not to turn up.'" But we'll have most of our players back so it should be a cracker, and we don't have to pay for wembley the week after like hudds fans, just saying i can understand is all.
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| Bloody hell, what's with some of the uber-fans on here?
Everyone has paid the same to get in, they are paying customers and its up to them whether to boo or not. If you don't want to boo, then don't. It's not for you to be lecturing others on what they should be doing.
Their £18, their business.
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| Quote ="(Saint)"Bloody hell, what's with some of the uber-fans on here?
Everyone has paid the same to get in, they are paying customers and its up to them whether to boo or not. If you don't want to boo, then don't. It's not for you to be lecturing others on what they should be doing.
Their £18, their business.'" thats a fair point
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| I could see why people did it yesterday after the dire first half, i didnt boo but there were alot of people to the left who did.
I couldnt think of boo'ing the team after the success ive seen with Saints during the SL era. I would agree with people who say we have been spoilt over the early 2000's and that the teams before this have set an very very high standard of RL and this team seemingly isn't living upto what people expect.
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| Sad state of affairs what happened last night and has left some people questioning the integrity of RL
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Sorry but listen on the video.
5 minutes or less. It did happen.
Even I was shocked.'"
All 8,000 of us booed did we? No didn't think so. I can't control the actions of a few idiots.
Quote ="(Saint)"Bloody hell, what's with some of the uber-fans on here?
Everyone has paid the same to get in, they are paying customers and its up to them whether to boo or not. If you don't want to boo, then don't. It's not for you to be lecturing others on what they should be doing.
Their £18, their business.'"
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but it doesn't make it right. What exactly does booing your own team achieve?
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| Quote ="Blobbynator"What exactly does booing your own team achieve?'"
It lets the players and coaches know that, as a paying supporter, you are less than impressed with what you are seeing and a kick up the ass is the order of the day. "St Helens supporters demand entertaining rugby" say the press. - but how would anyone know if the fans stood politely and applauded everything that they witnessed? I've booed Saints twice in my time and appaulingly both times were against the pies - but they flaming well deserved it, especially when you're 0-60 down at home! No, it didn't get behind the team, so I suppose on those occasions I wasn't a 'supporter'.
I do take on board however the booing of a team that is top of super league.
Personally I thought it was fairly weak by our standards given the dross being dished up on the pitch. What happened to sit-ins or "Sack the Board...etc?". We've gone soft
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