He was a dreadful panic buy, it reminds me of when we needed a bruiser prop and bought Barry Ward! , we needed (and still need) an experienced quality halfback to help bring on a develop the 2 quality young players we have in Gaskell and Lomax , we dont need some 29 year old utility player who fancies playing halfback.

TBF The Barry Ward thing is a bit ott because Lance is a good player but we simply didnt need a player like him, especially when we are in desperate need in other specialist area's

Thats because you wouldnt know a talented player if he was called Talent McTalent , played for Talent Utd and danced around on your front lawn with big 'I'm talented' sign stuck to his a$$

Coming from the Woman who thinks we should have stuck with Royce refuses to see we have improved under Rush and KC I think I'll take your view on Manu with a pinch of salt.

Quality signing

Shocking decision to sign him!

If he was signed as a fullback then fair enough but as a halfback is just shocking.

I quite like the idea of him coming on from the bench and either giving Roby a brief rest or letting him moved to 13 for a spell. He can also provide cover for alot of positions.

The squad as it stands though I'd consider throwing him at fullback too with Makinson keeping a wing spot for the moment. He has loads of game time there and I think he'd offer more than Wello

It's a real shame Pryce's injury record was so poor for his latter time with us or McManus might have offered him the right deal. He's streets ahead of Lance at 6

A one legged pryce is better than lance.

I like the idea of him coming on for Roby too, but there is the question of how much you pay someone to take on that role. I have no idea of wages, but I would be surprised if Lance was not in the top 5 and for someone to play 20mins but be a top 5 wage earner would seam a little OTT.

This year yes FB would be an ideal slot for him.

PS ass would be in my personel list of permitted pre watershed words, but if in any doubt pick a different one, don't try to dodge the filters with $$.

I've put a sticky on about language. This is not a swear word for mine, but it is open to discretion so either use the word or don't. Butt is a good alternative, if ass is not permitted.

All points to him being a poor signing, if we'd have let Wello go and brought in Lance on a 2 year deal to help develop the likes of Makinson or Swift I would have been happy , sadly we didnt and as you say I bet were paying him International halfback wages

Filters are communist !

Why have him in bench to take over robes? He's a fullback not a hooker, he looked poor at hooker as well and we'd be doing exactly what we doing with him now which is playing him just for sake of it!

For me, if he don't play fullback then don't play him at all.

Nice avatar!

Lenin the father of filters and mods

PITY IT'S NOT LENIN.........

I was wondering that lol!

The Avatar message was in response to filters being communists, I think the Avatar is Che Guevara but I can't be certain.

Lenin being the father of communism therefore would be the father of filters and mods, etc.

You could call Karl Marx the father of communism, although I'm not sure if that is valid as it's not exactly the same thing.

Anyway did not want to write an essay as it was just a throw away comment more than anything else, hence.

Nice avatar. etc etc.

it is actually Ernesto Guevara.

Well there you go good job I did not say nice avatar of Che Guevara....

Lenin was not a "mod" he believed that the people should be informed of everything and be given the power to make the decisions. It was after his death that Stalin took over and surpressed everything that was a threat to his authoritarian rule, keep the people ignorant and tell them only want you want them to know.

Interesting thread de-rail!

Whilst I have a lot of time for Lenin and his achievements it is false to suggest he wasn't capable of keeping secrets, not to mention autocracy.

Possibly the most radical thread de-railment I've seen in a while and it's caused by a mod. Oh the irony.

And my avatar . Great thread

Any idea why this hasn't been annouced yet? Thought there was supposed to be a press conference on Tuesday?

Bank Holiday?

We needed to talk about something this Manu announcement is the most unannounced announcement ever. I'll give myself a warning for derailing.

Although I did find the brief history of communism quite entertaining as an interlude.

It seams on Redvee they are talking about a NZ prop who maybe being lined up. Could explain Pete's statement about Manu being put on ice, although a NZ prop would not effect Manu in terms of quota players it may impact salary wise.

But then to get a NZ prop we would have to have a firm commitment from a player that they want out of their contract.

Has Manu's signing being announced yet? The Rhinos were also interested in getting him for 2013 but it's all gone quiet. Is he still going to Saints or have your plans changed?

If Manu saw the games at the weekend then I don't think it's too tough a choice...



But the question is does Brown want him????