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| I wonder how much the club is actually worth now then, with it's new asset under its belt it must have gone up quite a bit. Someone somewhere must have to put a value on it all for tax and insurance purposes.
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| Quote ="Donkey OTay"I wonder how much the club is actually worth now then, with it's new asset under its belt it must have gone up quite a bit. Someone somewhere must have to put a value on it all for tax and insurance purposes.'"
Has the club been "split" into a holding company and St. Helens R.L.F.C.?
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| and it's St. Helens RFC thank you very much
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| Quote ="saint at wire"Bell was issued with some extra 15,000 shares as recently as Dec 1st 2011 taking his shares upto 50,667 taking his share up to 15.2% of the total. Similarly Lyons took 10,000 more shares on the same date (now 8.3% of the total). The share capital is now 332,502 not the figure you state (sorry for being a pedant).
The extra shares were issues by way of conversion of their share of the £850,000 of total directors loans which were converted to shares; which makes their resignations all the more strange given that it all happened within two months of the close season.
Clearly something happened in those two months - the problem is that what happened is anything but clearly!
Obviously since resigning they may have sold the shares but in a closed company like this, it is not straight forward.
Sir Mac's (& family)stake is now down slightly to 23.7%. Coleman has 83,333 (25.0%) shares, so they control under 50% between them. However, Coleman has a large convertable loanstock which if fully converted would give him approx 39% of the total, which IMO is fair enough given the amount he has invested.'"
Well having looked back to the original announcement, Mike Coleman has since taken additional share meaning I've miscalculated his potential share of the club if (for if read when) he converts his shares.
If I'm right it will be 53% of the total so assuming he keeps his loan in as well it gives a current value of the club around £12M.
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| If this carries on next it will be featured on a Channel 4 Investigative Exposé Documentary! LOL!
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| Quote ="jaybs"If this carries on next it will be featured on a Channel 4 Investigative Exposé Documentary! LOL!'"
why?
private share dealings are happening all the time in companies this size.
similarly with debentures, and debentures to shares.
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| Quote ="Sadfish"why?
private share dealings are happening all the time in companies this size.
similarly with debentures, and debentures to shares.'"
LOL at the end? it was just humoir! the way the media as I know watch forums for any leads they may get, nothing more and nothing less!
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| Quote ="jaybs"LOL at the end? it was just humoir! the way the media as I know watch forums for any leads they may get, nothing more and nothing less!'"
Your posts come across as a fairly intelligent man, yet you persist in putting 'LOL' in a lot of your posts like a 14 year old boy. Purely out of curiosity, why is this? I'm not having a go at you for doing it by the way.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"Your posts come across as a fairly intelligent man, yet you persist in putting 'LOL' in a lot of your posts like a 14 year old boy. Purely out of curiosity, why is this? I'm not having a go at you for doing it by the way.
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Yeh you are.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Yeh you are.
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I genuinely wasn't.
Couldn't be bothered figuring out a politer way to phrase it in all honesty.
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| Damn you got in there before my re-edit.
I don't think anyone genuinely Laughs out Loud, but it is an indication of not being serious or taking it in good humour.
I think Smilies and LMAO's are the newest development in punctuation since the semi colon.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Damn you got in there before my re-edit.
I don't think anyone genuinely Laughs out Loud, but it is an indication of not being serious or taking it in good humour.
I think Smilies and LMAO's are the newest development in punctuation since the semi colon.
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Completely agree, however emoticon's are more than appropriate. They are definitely a vital cog when talking via message boards, texting etc...
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| Ps did King Warrior follow through????
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Ps did King Warrior follow through????'"
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| Hmmmm maybe a ban for Welching is in order
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Hmmmm maybe a ban for Welching is in order'"
His excuse was his 'open bet' wasn't open to me.
Probably because I was the only one who took it up.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"Your posts come across as a fairly intelligent man, yet you persist in putting 'LOL' in a lot of your posts like a 14 year old boy. Purely out of curiosity, why is this? I'm not having a go at you for doing it by the way.
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Social media is all about being relaxed, it is not writing a dicitation! look at all the different smiles toy can choose which I don't use much, LOL is just showing it is humour!
Back to the point one journalist who writes weekly and feels he is in touch! has used comments from forums and took as fact!
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| Don't be Nosey?????
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| Quote ="jaybs"Social media is all about being relaxed, it is not writing a dicitation! look at all the different smiles toy can choose which I don't use much, LOL is just showing it is humour!
Back to the point one journalist who writes weekly and feels he is in touch! has used comments from forums and took as fact!'"
Fair enough! As I said, just curious.
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| Quote ="MickeyMo"Erasure re-forming?'"
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| Quote ="ROBINSON"Look son, you can own a Lada or contract hire a Rolls Royce. Your call.'"
My call, Son, would be a stadium where a CC QF game can be played without question. Even a Rolls Royce can break down
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| Erm, I'm not being funny here but Langtree Park is better than the DW so I don't know where the Rolls Royce comparison comes in. Langtree Park has got all the feeling of a stadium that's geared towards Super League with freedom of movement behind the stands and a lazy sunny haze shining into the ground. The DW has all the charm and feeling of a Subbuteo-designed nuclear bunker.
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| Quote ="Smurf"Our
Anyway, Wigan Athletics ground doesn't need to be on Whelan street, it's called the Dave Whelan stadium!
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I thought DW stood for 'Dim Wit' ?
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| Quote ="sanjunien"I thought DW stood for 'Dim Wit' ?'"
Close, it's Donkey Wankers.
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| Quote ="McClennan"Close, it's Donkey Wankers.'"
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