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| Thought those figures had to be wrong! I don't remember Leeds getting a crowd as low as 12,700 for a while let alone have an average like that.
FWIW our crowds for how appaling we've been for the majority of this season have held up pretty well and your crowds to say you play in a dump have been good aswell.
I never quite get the old crowd arguments between clubs though..........I would love to see every single superleague club averaging 15k + and take no pleasure whatsoever in seeing teams getting poor crowds.
As for Wigan I mentioned on our board last week that we've got Wire at home yet, a game against Leeds were all tickets are £10 Adults and £5 for kids and a game this Friday against Quins were Heinz have 'bought' the full North Stand and give the tickets away for free to their staff(all have been taken) so our average should rise yet.
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| Quote ="ABP'"We also compete against a Premiership Football club and an NL1 club where as you have none.
Don't let that get in the way of ''Our attendances are nearly as good as Wigans'' celebration.
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thought Wigan RLFC are the biggest bestest and most famous club in the world. surely you should be sapping fans from those areas rather than vice versa?
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| Quote ="Blobbynator"The important thing about the new stadium is the location - it is pretty much perfect.'"
Not so I'm afraid, I can drop the little monster off at my mum's and walk to KR in about 15 minutes, it'll take double that to the new stadium. And it's still 90 miles from my house - how inconsiderate.
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| Quote ="Harry Pinner"Not so I'm afraid, I can drop the little monster off at my mum's and walk to KR in about 15 minutes, it'll take double that to the new stadium. And it's still 90 miles from my house - how inconsiderate.'"
The club made the move to stop you coming, your simply not welcome anymore. Unless you bring the kid and pay full adult price, and buy minimum of £15 worth sweets N drinks ok.
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| The new stadium will have a creche where you can leave your youngsters. It'll be run by Kyle Eastmond during his long injury periods. For some reason the kids same to relate to him. Any naughty children will have to sit on the O'loughlin step, where they will be force fed crusts to make their her go curly.
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| Quote ="donkey O'tay"The new stadium will have a creche where you can leave your youngsters. It'll be run by Kyle Eastmond during his long injury periods. For some reason the kids same to relate to him. Any naughty children will have to sit on the O'loughlin step, where they will be force fed crusts to make their her go curly.'"
Sounds like a Damo thing to say...
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| Quote ="Pemps"St. Helens ave. 11,664
Wigan ave. 13,798'"
St Helens points - 30, position - 1st
Wigan points - 16, position - 8th
If only they presented a trophy for highest attendance, you'd be able to finally break that 7 year barren spell you have
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| Silly thread.
That figure is overall attedances, home and away.
Saints this season to many games will take more away fans than us as they are the best team atm and have been for a few years. Also because they are the best team more fans from other teams will turn up to saints games.
We are currently having our worst season for many years and have had many reasons all season why fans would be put off.
If we had the success of saints in the super leagu era, our gates would currently be well over 18,000 every game.
Why are saints fans pleased with attendances, they should be filling the stadium every week, they are one of the best teams in the history of the game.
We also have a premiership team in the town which many people attend and also a NL1 team in the town.
Saints get poor attendances IMO not because they are worse than Wigans like most fans say but because they are the best team and they should be getting more.
We are currently the 8th team in the league but have the 2nd best average.
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| Quote ="odemwingie"
Why are saints fans pleased with attendances, they should be filling the stadium every week, they are one of the best teams in the history of the game.
'" Seems pretty simple to me why Saints fans are pleased with attendances, because they are rising, and because they are rising when a lot of other clubs are for whatever reason seeing a decline or not much of an increase. I don't think you will find many Saints fans who won't agree that in the past our attendances have been poor, but thats why we are happy at the fact that they are rising at last and we are getting decent attendances now and hopefully that will continue.
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| Quote ="gateaux"Seems pretty simple to me why Saints fans are pleased with attendances, because they are rising, and because they are rising when a lot of other clubs are for whatever reason seeing a decline or not much of an increase. I don't think you will find many Saints fans who won't agree that in the past our attendances have been poor, but thats why we are happy at the fact that they are rising at last and we are getting decent attendances now and hopefully that will continue.'"
Fairplay, they are going up and thats great for the game but I cannot help but think they should be alot higher as you are the best team our game has to offer. It is a slight let down for someone who maybe does not watch RL to turn on sky sports and see saints playing and have heard of them because they are currently the best team in the sport and decide to watch it but then see emptiness all around the stadium, it does not look good. Saints attendances are still poor because of how good the team is, but I accept I cannot argue with the FACT they are going up.
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| Quote ="odemwingie"Silly thread.
That figure is overall attedances, home and away.
Saints this season to many games will take more away fans than us as they are the best team atm and have been for a few years. Also because they are the best team more fans from other teams will turn up to saints games.
We are currently having our worst season for many years and have had many reasons all season why fans would be put off.
If we had the success of saints in the super leagu era, our gates would currently be well over 18,000 every game.
Why are saints fans pleased with attendances, they should be filling the stadium every week, they are one of the best teams in the history of the game.
We also have a premiership team in the town which many people attend and also a NL1 team in the town.
Saints get poor attendances IMO not because they are worse than Wigans like most fans say but because they are the best team and they should be getting more.
We are currently the 8th team in the league but have the 2nd best average.'"
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| Quote ="odemwingie"It is a slight let down for someone who maybe does not watch RL to turn on sky sports and see saints playing and have heard of them because they are currently the best team in the sport and decide to watch it but then see emptiness all around the stadium '"
Actually, Knowsley Road doesn't ever look empty on TV, except at the away end (when often it IS empty!). It always looks fuller on TV than it usually is in reality. It will be harder to disguise any bare patches if/when we finally get our new stadium.
I think our lowest attendance this season was at the last match, wasn't it? We only got about 8,500 for that. I don't think we had an attendance of less than 9000 before Friday during this season.
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| Quote ="odemwingie"Fairplay, they are going up and thats great for the game but I cannot help but think they should be alot higher as you are the best team our game has to offer. It is a slight let down for someone who maybe does not watch RL to turn on sky sports and see saints playing and have heard of them because they are currently the best team in the sport and decide to watch it but then see emptiness all around the stadium, it does not look good. Saints attendances are still poor because of how good the team is, but I accept I cannot argue with the FACT they are going up.'"
the state of the stadium is to blame for that, rising attendances in a recession should always be celebrated.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"the state of the stadium is to blame for that, rising attendances in a recession should always be celebrated.'"
Do you honestly believe that Saints relatively poor attendances are due to "the state of the stadium"?
Do you not think that the increase this year is attributable to the "free season ticket" with a shirt promotion?
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| How is it the state of the stadium? Nothing wrong with it, proper rugby ground that can create a fantastic atmosphere.
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| Quote ="wigan_rlfc"How is it the state of the stadium? Nothing wrong with it, proper rugby ground that can create a fantastic atmosphere.'"
well as hull and warrington managed to increase their attendance by around 50% when they moved to a new stadium, it seems an older stadium deters, or a new stadium attracts fans.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"well as hull and warrington managed to increase their attendance by around 50% when they moved to a new stadium, it seems an older stadium deters, or a new stadium attracts fans.'"
Hull also went on to win the challenge cup and go to old trafford becoming one of the best teams in the league over a few years at the same time.
Warrington struggled before a new stadium came but now you could not have super league without them, they have improved on the field also.
Saints cannot get any better really. The stadium will take the average up a few thousand maybe, but mainly due to the fact that more away fans will travel.
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| It took ages for Wigans attendances to go up after the sale of Central Park.
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| Quote ="odemwingie"Saints cannot get any better really. The stadium will take the average up a few thousand maybe, but mainly due to the fact that more away fans will travel.'"
As will more home fans.
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| Quote ="Ski"As will more home fans.
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I am not sure, if saints are the top team now and still getting around 10-11,000 then I cannot see why moving stadium would see a huge increase. Although over a couple of years maybe 13,-14,000 is not too unrealistic.
What is the current away allocation for KR and what will it be for the new stadium?
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| Saints fans always moan and say the JJB has no atmosphere and is lifeless. What do you think it will be like at your new ground?
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| Quote ="odemwingie"I am not sure, if saints are the top team now and still getting around 10-11,000 then I cannot see why moving stadium would see a huge increase. Although over a couple of years maybe 13,-14,000 is not too unrealistic.
What is the current away allocation for KR and what will it be for the new stadium?'"
Dunno, dunno.
However, your point on home fans, I refer you back to an earlier post I made.
Some people have to get 3 (yes 3!) buses from their local stop to Saints. People also moan about the parking. They moan even before they get there.
Saints' studied this at great length prior to the 08 season. The made strides to kill such apathy, but as it is, KR just isn't an enticing prospect to spend all day fannying about to get to.
The new stadium will invigorate the town's interest.
I actually doubt there will be that big of an increase in away fans. Yourselves and Wire will travel well, what ever. The Hull clubs enjoy a chance to scrap between themselves in another town. The only sides I can actually bothering to travel to Saints any better are Leeds.
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| Quote ="wigan_rlfc"Saints fans always moan and say the JJB has no atmosphere and is lifeless. What do you think it will be like at your new ground?'"
We moan the Wigan fans have no atmosphere and are lifeless...
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