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| Slow as he may be, I'm glad Wello is starting instead of being sat on bench for 70 minutes. He'll up the standards. COYS
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| Good first half. Finally showing some commitment. Hopefully we can keep it up for the full 80... It's lifted my spirits a little though, I was expecting a hammering tonight. Huddersfield have been pretty poor though.
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| Quote ="The Reaper"Good first half. Finally showing some commitment. Hopefully we can keep it up for the full 80... It's lifted my spirits a little though, I was expecting a hammering tonight. Huddersfield have been pretty poor though.'"
We've done to them what Warrington did to us last week ...
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"And you'd be as wrong as Brown.
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Maybe, maybe not
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| I'm away so only just seen the score.
Who played well?
Any injuries?
MOM ?
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| No injuries. Mose man of the match, by far his best performance for us. You could tell by our start they'd had a rollocking during the week. Turner and LMS pretty anonymous.
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| Quote ="St pete"I'm away so only just seen the score.
Who played well?
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Mose was excellent and MOM. Roby back to his usual self, Wilkin played pretty well. Thompson also very good.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"Mose was excellent and MOM. Roby back to his usual self, Wilkin played pretty well. Thompson also very good.'"
Mose! Jesus! I missed him play well!!! They must have been poor!!
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| Quote ="St pete"I'm away so only just seen the score.
Who played well?
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As a team they all played pretty well, hohaia/ Dawson dropped 2 kick offs which led to 2 tries which gave Huddersfield undue dignity imo (they were awful) - Mose, Sia (in his first stint, less so in his second) and Roby led the pack superbly with the youngsters around them (lms put in a few good runs, but wasn't in the same league as the 3 mentioned) greenwood was the stand out of the youngsters, poked his nose through on virtually every carry - was playing very centrally though. Walsh was an absolute maestro and wellens played his part very well. Wasn't a night for the outside backs but Dawson looked lively as anything, drove it in well, and continues to make breaks. Huddersfield had a lot of ball particularly in the first half and we looked solid in defence, for some reason we only looked shaky after we had an error - I'm starting to think there's a desire to make up for the error leading to worse defence then if we just approached it as a normal defensive set.
Overall was pleasantly pleasing performance, and went a long way to answering some of the critics - what is needed is to do it week on week on week now.
Wheeler recieved treatment during his second try but no injuries that I noticed.
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"As a team they all played pretty well, hohaia/ Dawson dropped 2 kick offs which led to 2 tries which gave Huddersfield undue dignity imo (they were awful) - Mose, Sia (in his first stint, less so in his second) and Roby led the pack superbly with the youngsters around them (lms put in a few good runs, but wasn't in the same league as the 3 mentioned) greenwood was the stand out of the youngsters, poked his nose through on virtually every carry - was playing very centrally though. Walsh was an absolute maestro and wellens played his part very well. Wasn't a night for the outside backs but Dawson looked lively as anything, drove it in well, and continues to make breaks. Huddersfield had a lot of ball particularly in the first half and we looked solid in defence, for some reason we only looked shaky after we had an error - I'm starting to think there's a desire to make up for the error leading to worse defence then if we just approached it as a normal defensive set.
Overall was pleasantly pleasing performance, and went a long way to answering some of the critics - what is needed is to do it week on week on week now.
Wheeler recieved treatment during his second try but no injuries that I noticed.'"
I think Greenwood is the pick of the bunch from the youngsters. He's one of them forwards that has the ability to break the line. I'd be very tempted to stick with him as starting 2nd row. If we give him good ball running wide, he could do damage.
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| Quote ="St pete"I think Greenwood is the pick of the bunch from the youngsters. He's one of them forwards that has the ability to break the line. I'd be very tempted to stick with him as starting 2nd row. If we give him good ball running wide, he could do damage.'"
I must confess Thompson also had a very good game in defence from what I remember - were still struggling a little for go forward though - we struggled at times with Crabtree in particular but they put their body on the line and you can't ask for more than that!
Oh, and you'll be interested to know, we suffered the "Amor coming off" dip in intensity occurred when Mose came off tonight...
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| Quote ="St pete"Mose! Jesus! I missed him play well!!! They must have been poor!!
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To be honest i don't think he was anything special tonight either Roby, Wheeler or Wilkin was your best in my opinion. You played with a bit of intensity and the Giants collapsed as a result of it.
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"I must confess Thompson also had a very good game in defence from what I remember - were still struggling a little for go forward though - we struggled at times with Crabtree in particular but they put their body on the line and you can't ask for more than that!
Oh, and you'll be interested to know, we suffered the "Amor coming off" dip in intensity when Mose came off tonight...'"
Cavy believe I missed Mose play well! Are we talking on par with his other games he was "our best forward" or we talking played very well?
Thompson is all heart. Runs like a train. He always does his defence but IMO he's lacking some size at the moment to make the hard drives. I feel how he grows will determine of he is a avg super league player or he goes on to better things.
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| Quote ="dubairl"To be honest i don't think he was anything special tonight either Roby, Wheeler or Wilkin was your best in my opinion. You played with a bit of intensity and the Giants collapsed as a result of it.'"
He made close to ten yards on every single carry he made, including plenty coming out of his own 20 with 3/4 pressuring him.
I really don't understand what people want Mose to do? I think he'll need to kill somebody in a tackle before he gets any praise.
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| Quote ="dubairl"To be honest i don't think he was anything special tonight either Roby, Wheeler or Wilkin was your best in my opinion. You played with a bit of intensity and the Giants collapsed as a result of it.'"
I find a few on here think he's played well if he does few decent runs and does 20 odd 2nd / 3rd man tackles. I've been ever disappointed with him if I'm honest. He doesn't run his weight. I question his heart and if he wants to be on the field at times.
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| Quote ="St pete"Cavy believe I missed Mose play well! Are we talking on par with his other games he was "our best forward" or we talking played very well?
Thompson is all heart. Runs like a train. He always does his defence but IMO he's lacking some size at the moment to make the hard drives. I feel how he grows will determine of he is a avg super league player or he goes on to better things.'"
I'd be surprised if he made less than 130m and he made a substantial amount of 'hard yards' as you've been asking him to do. If you've recorded the game it's well worth watching back.
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| Quote ="St pete"Cavy believe I missed Mose play well! Are we talking on par with his other games he was "our best forward" or we talking played very well?
Thompson is all heart. Runs like a train. He always does his defence but IMO he's lacking some size at the moment to make the hard drives. I feel how he grows will determine of he is a avg super league player or he goes on to better things.'"
I was more impressed with Thompson and Greenwood. Thompson hits hard and greenwood is very awkward to tackle and stop gaining meters by the looks of it.
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| Quote ="St pete"I find a few on here think he's played well if he does few decent runs and does 20 odd 2nd / 3rd man tackles. I've been ever disappointed with him if I'm honest. He doesn't run his weight. I question his heart and if he wants to be on the field at times.'"
Ran very strongly today and took a huge responsibility. A couple of times I noticed he took more than 1 carry per set.
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| Quote ="dubairl"I was more impressed with Thompson and Greenwood. Thompson hits hard and greenwood is very awkward to tackle and stop gaining meters by the looks of it.'"
Yeah I agree, Thompson was very good today. Strong carries in tight situations and hit very hard in defence, Greenwood has an eye for a gap and the strength and speed to exploit it. Looking forward to seeing how these two develop along with Savelio.
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| Quote ="St pete"I find a few on here think he's played well if he does few decent runs and does 20 odd 2nd / 3rd man tackles. I've been ever disappointed with him if I'm honest. He doesn't run his weight. I question his heart and if he wants to be on the field at times.'"
He made some good meters but i wouldn't call them barnstorming runs like he is capable of i don't think he made more than 12 runs if i am honest. Went of after the first 12 minutes and came back on in the 2nd half if i am correct. Used silverwood as a good blocker for the try tho.
Lets just say it wasn't a youtube highlight clip
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"He made close to ten yards on every single carry he made, including plenty coming out of his own 20 with 3/4 pressuring him.
I really don't understand what people want Mose to do? I think he'll need to kill somebody in a tackle before he gets any praise.'"
Just run his weight mate. That's all I want him to do. He's 20st + and stands at 6ft 5in and at times couldn't break out a paper bag.
When watching him, he reminds me of the big fat tall kid at school that used to rampage thru the other kids but then hits 16 years of age and starts getting tackled and doesn't like it.
IMHO he's been shocking. Wane wouldn't pick him at Wigan that's for sure. I'd rather play against him than have him in my team. I'm still giving him more time to settle but I'm not holding my breath.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"Ran very strongly today and took a huge responsibility. A couple of times I noticed he took more than 1 carry per set.'"
Christ! I bet he was on his knees resting after that.
Don't think I've ever seen him take a 1st drive in or drive off a tap so far.
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| Quote ="dubairl"He made some good meters but i wouldn't call them barnstorming runs like he is capable of i don't think he made more than 12 runs if i am honest. Went of after the first 12 minutes and came back on in the 2nd half if i am correct. Used silverwood as a good blocker for the try tho.
Lets just say it wasn't a youtube highlight clip'"
But that's fine. If we had Amor, laffranchi and walmsley by his side, he could afford to be a bit more of a "barnstorming" luxury - what he did do was lead the pack, always had his hand up to take it in, always made metres after impact, found the floor to start a roll a couple of occasions and helped the kids around him. He typified his performance by being involved in the first 4 tackles in the match. Wasn't flashy, but was a very good prop forward performance. Was his best performance by quite some way, and a very good performance in general. Especially when you consider being overrun by huddersfields large pack was one of my greatest concerns, he played a large part in putting us on top (that and Huddersfield were worse than we were last week!)
Took his try well too!
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| Quote ="dubairl"He made some good meters but i wouldn't call them barnstorming runs like he is capable of i don't think he made more than 12 runs if i am honest. Went of after the first 12 minutes and came back on in the 2nd half if i am correct. Used silverwood as a good blocker for the try tho.
Lets just say it wasn't a youtube highlight clip'"
He did two stints in the first half totaling 20 minutes. He then played around 20 minutes in the second half too, for a man of his size and type of player that's long minutes.
When the likes of Laffranchi, Amor and Walmsley are back that will allow him to go back into his usual role of high intensity impact. You simply can not perform that same role with the amount of minutes he is currently playing, it isn't viable at all.
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"But that's fine. If we had Amor, laffranchi and walmsley by his side, he could afford to be a bit more of a "barnstorming" luxury - what he did do was lead the pack, always had his hand up to take it in, always made metres after impact, found the floor to start a roll a couple of occasions and helped the kids around him. He typified his performance by being involved in the first 4 tackles in the match. Wasn't flashy, but was a very good prop forward performance. Was his best performance by quite some way, and a very good performance in general. Especially when you consider being overrun by huddersfields large pack was one of my greatest concerns, he played a large part in putting us on top (that and Huddersfield were worse than we were last week!)
Took his try well too!'"
Mose has had those guys named above with him more or less all year and been crap.
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