Just an observation, but it’s strange sometimes how one mans “dirty sod” when that dirty sod plays for another team, is another blokes “he’s as hard as they come” brilliant type player, he’s never dirty when he plays for yours, or my team. Strange that!

Hooper always used to get caught out by the refs, no problem teams having a hardman or enforcer. But then you have to expect them to get sent off every couple of games.

Can't have it both ways which is the way Wane seams to want it. Either he's a dirty player put in there to get at teams and will get sent off occasionally, or he is there to play it by the rules.

Micky Mac should be looking at a grade D-F intentional off the ball strike to the head with clenched fist , at least 3 games and rightly so

At the time I just thought it was an ill timed tackle - but after each replay it became more and more sickening. A definite sending off and surely a ban to follow. Cannot believe Wane is disputing it.

Don't kid yourself matey - you finished top because Warrington and Leeds didn't want to and the rest of the league is garbage. The fact that you've been struggling for form of late after peaking in the middle of the season proves what a great move it's been for Wane to get you chasing the hubcab...

I thought Perry was lucky not to suffer any serious consequence for that, but having seen it again on the replay I'd say there wasn't much in it...he just dropped on Lima. Lima's reaction was OTT.

Leeds?

Jesus wept, they couldn't be less important to who finishes top if they tried.

The reason Leeds 'didn't want to win it' is because they were only good enough to beat Wigan, Saints or Wire once in the 6 league games against them.

Yes, you're absolutely right. Leeds are a terrible team who never contest big finals or anything after all, eh? They chase the top spot every season and throw everything they have into winning meaningless league games and are just too **** to win them or finish top despite all their best efforts. They weep into their pints every night at their accursedly low league position and winning at O/T is just no consolation to them at all in their agony, bless 'em.

Leeds have mastered the art of what modern SL is about - i.e. their being no point in bothering to turn up for pointless league games until August, and saving all their energy for the playoffs instead. You might still delight in the joy of actually winning [isomething[/i (no matter how unrecognised and denigrated a trophy it may be) after all those long, lonely years of mid-table obscurity and think that finishing top is a goal worth throwing everything you have at all season long. The successful clubs like us and Leeds however got bored with winning the hubcab years ago and direct our energies at the part of the season where it counts instead. The current Leeds side will be acclaimed in future generations as one of the greatest club sides of all time. So will Saints' teams of a few years ago. Your current team will merely go down in history as a footnote. So ner.

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Your spelling of the word 'simile' is incorrect.

Since your last trophy win in 2008, Wigan have won 2 major trophies/finals and finished top twice. Warrington have won 3 major trophies/finals and finished top once. Leeds have won 3 major finals/trophies and finished top once. St Helens have won..........................................nothing. Diddly squat. Ball all.

Oh, and it was a definite red card no question.

Stop living in the past you Wigan fans.......oops!

definate red card and probably 2-3 game ban.

how wane can defend that is shocking but he is his coach so feels he has to???

as for saying he is a good coach cos he won the league wire have played virtually the whole season in 2nd gear and if we beat wierdness today will have finished 1 point behind the team that bar against widnes has gone full throttle at the league.

we will see how good his coaching skills are when at the end of the season there is no

finch
luilui (sorry about spelling)
lima
carmont

3 of the most important players leaving in one go is huge that would be like taking

briers, morley, hodgson out of wire in one go
sinfield, peacock, maguire out of leeds

There's no "fishing" smiley it seems and this is the nearest I could find and will have to do instead:

Yeah mate of course nobody else wanted to win it




You really are delusional... And incorrect as usual.

Pure gold. When wire win it finishing one point above Wigan last year you're the best team by far and the LLS proves it according to your fans.

Wigan do it the next year yet it doesn't prove we're the best team in the league?




I mean I know as RL we are kind of programmed to be hypocrites, but this is just too good



Difference is we're losing our 'Briers, Morley and Hodgson' but still have our best player.

But to be slightly less biased for a moment, McIlorum's challenge was stupid and if he gets a season ending ban I wouldn't argue at all, he'd deserve it for an idiotic challenge.

You are incorrect a fair few times in this post.

It wasn't really Maguires team at all.
The only players he signed that are still in our squad are Lima and Finch (unless you want to count Hock).
Its not Maguires coaching that is the reason we finished top, Wane changed quite a few things when he came in.
And no we didn't get him to save money on an overseas coach. We got him cause he is Wigan through and through, and he showed himself deserving of a chance to coach us as his record coaching the 20's and when he stood in for Maguire was excellent.

Absolutely correct, we have won nothing since our last Challenge Cup victory in 2008 although have been to 4 grand finals and not finished outside the top 3 in our transitional period - not ba compared to some "bigger" clubs that had to cheat and break the salary cap to avoid relegation in their transitional phase

I always like to read a post with a cogent argument. Have you got one?

Nice one, back of the net!

Whilst I agree wholeheartedly with your sentiment, I'm pretty sure the argument that "you haven't won anything since your last trophy" could be equally applied to all teams?

hmm only if your blind lol I recall Sonny Nickle and he was a dirty sod (as was Shane Cooper and a number of others), never thought anything but that. Newton was a thug on the field and McIlorum needs to moderate his aggression or he wont be remembered for the fact he is a good player.

Just been listening to BBC Radio Manchester and they played an interview from Friday night with Finch and he deserves some sort of punishment for what he came out with. Absolutely slated Child's decision and if this was football then he would be fined for his comments.

Stuart Fielden's comments on Sky weren't as bad, but were highly embarrassing.

Stu "glass jaw" Fielden made a show of himself all night. The way he reacted to being took off, his actions on the touch line and then a silly childish interview at the end made him look stupid!

Old Dirty Dog.