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| Quote ="nikos"if anyone thinks that had Leon been a fringe player or a reservist he would have got the same 'punishment' then they are deluded.
clear case of double standards and only wanting to do a token gesture re punishment of a key player'"
100% correct and i would be very suprised in the world of pro sport if you would see much different from 99% of clubs!
though the nrl which has the highest profile and highest standard of our sport is trying to clean the game up as clubs and a governing body! cronulla just sacked its captain and the raiders sacked its best player in carney.
i would like super league to follow suit!!
i think what i would like to see is a 2 strikes and your out system. first strike suspended from the rest of the season that you have brought the game into disripute and second strike banned for life.
lets see if the likes of bailey, walker, feka, pryce, raynor, readon, cunningham, cockayne and the rest dare not be well behaved then.
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| Does anyone even know the extent of the assault? Read somewhere that the woman in question got three bruises on her arm, and her new partner was pushed and fell over/banged his head.
I'm leaning to think that this has been blown waaayyyy out of proportion going off what has been mentioned in press reports and so forth. I realise that relying on press reports is hardly ideal, but if the woman had taken a good thumping/kicking, we'd surely know about it.
Not condoning any sort of non-reciprical violence, naturally, but until someone knows the true extent of said assault, i don't see how the club's punishment can be regarded as inadequate.
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| Quote ="In Torment In Hell"Does anyone even know the extent of the assault? Read somewhere that the woman in question got three bruises on her arm, and her new partner was pushed and fell over/banged his head.
I'm leaning to think that this has been blown waaayyyy out of proportion going off what has been mentioned in press reports and so forth. I realise that relying on press reports is hardly ideal, but if the woman had taken a good thumping/kicking, we'd surely know about it.
Not condoning any sort of non-reciprical violence, naturally, but until someone knows the true extent of said assault, i don't see how the club's punishment can be regarded as inadequate.'"
the first judge who found them guilty said he was thinking jail time? so there must of been something quite unsavoury in the evidance.
as ive said lucky for pryce and readon they got a change of judge fopr the sentancing? not sure why the judge was changed? maybe the first one was too drunk lol
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| the courts have issued their sentence and so have the club.
RE MIllward. what he did was done at a moment when he was acting in the capacity of an employee of the club. he was not subject to criminal charges but was subject to internal discipline. He was effectively abusing his position.
Leon is a different issue. Lets be clear, as a Bradfordian whose recently deceased friend was glassed by Leon, I have no time whatsoever for him as a person, but he is an incredible footballer. He needs to focus on that aspect of his life and now live it out on the back rather than front pages of newspapers.
From what our local paper reported, it sounds like he was daft to get involved, but the other guy came at him witha rounders bat. He should not have been in that position, but how many of us would have done the same?
He is embarrassed by it all and rightly so. He should issue an apology to the fans of your club, as he has slightly sullied your image, but in my opinion nowhere near as much as Long and Gleeson did a few years back.
He will get stick from away fans like on Friday, and in a way that will be a punishment. I hope that we will stop talking about Leon Pryce the thug and spend more time talking and reading about Leon the great rugby player ( except when he is playing against the BUlls).
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| Quote ="In Torment In Hell"Does anyone even know the extent of the assault? Read somewhere that the woman in question got three bruises on her arm, and her new partner was pushed and fell over/banged his head.
I'm leaning to think that this has been blown waaayyyy out of proportion going off what has been mentioned in press reports and so forth. I realise that relying on press reports is hardly ideal, but if the woman had taken a good thumping/kicking, we'd surely know about it.
Not condoning any sort of non-reciprical violence, naturally, but until someone knows the true extent of said assault, i don't see how the club's punishment can be regarded as inadequate.'"
You do ignore the fact that he broke into their house through a locked door...
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| Quote ="Gazemous"You do ignore the fact that he broke into their house through a locked door...'"
No he didn't. Reardon did, or are you suggesting he should pay for someone else's crime?
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| Quote ="Gazemous"You do ignore the fact that he broke into their house through a locked door...'"
quite!! if someone kicked my door in the first thing i would do is tool up!! your come through me to get to my family!!
screw driver, carving knife, cricket bat!! i once had a girfriend who's dad was a game keeper and if you kicked his front door in you would have had a shot gun or a rifle stuck in your face that was still accurate at about a mile.
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| Lol at some of the deluded posts on here.
He pushed a guy over, nothing more than what Willie Talau was doing round town every week FFS! The only guilty person was Reardon and that was for telling his ex that there son was in hospital. Which is sick!
Nice to see Wigan fans admitting that Fat Feka aint a key player.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"No he didn't. Reardon did, or are you suggesting he should pay for someone else's crime?'"
if my mate tried to kick a door in ide stop him not follow him in. its not like leon isnt strong enough to stop readon, he's 6'3 and 17stone
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"quite!! if someone kicked my door in the first thing i would do is tool up!! your come through me to get to my family!!
screw driver, carving knife, cricket bat!! i once had a girfriend who's dad was a game keeper and if you kicked his front door in you would have had a shot gun or a rifle stuck in your face that was still accurate at about a mile.'"
They found NOT GUILTY for breaking into the house ? do you understand what that means ?
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| Quote ="Gazemous"You do ignore the fact that he broke into their house through a locked door...'"
he didnt break in, reardon did. leon could have followed him in to try and get him to come out and make sure things didnt go to far, for all any of us know, but when he went in, reardons ex wifes partner came at him with a bat, he defended himself by pushing him away, he didnt hit anyone, he didnt attack anyone with any sort of weapon, he defended himself, the same as anyone would have done, his mistake was to follow reardon to the flat in the first place. does that mean he deserves to be sacked, i dont think it does,
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"if my mate tried to kick a door in ide stop him not follow him in. its not like leon isnt strong enough to stop readon, he's 6'3 and 17stone'"
Its not always a smart decision, but most people have been in the position of have a drunk mate who is very angry to control, its not easy and most people just try and calm them down without force, not an easy situation though.
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| Quote ="bornasaint"he didnt break in, reardon did. leon could have followed him in to try and get him to come out and make sure things didnt go to far, for all any of us know, but when he went in, reardons ex wifes partner came at him with a bat, he defended himself by pushing him away, he didnt hit anyone, he didnt attack anyone with any sort of weapon, he defended himself, the same as anyone would have done, his mistake was to follow reardon to the flat in the first place. does that mean he deserves to be sacked, i dont think it does,'"
Reardon DID NOT! break into the house. He was found not Guilty. Do you understand what that means ?
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| Quote ="Ashmeister"They found NOT GUILTY for breaking into the house ? do you understand what that means ?'"
some one forced entry!! so read my post above
all i said is what i would do if someone broke into my house. if someone kicks you door in you cant see who kicked the door in! you would only see who comes through the door.
thats all i have said. as the judge said readons wife and boyfriend were terrified which is undrstandable.
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| Quote ="Ashmeister"They found NOT GUILTY for breaking into the house ? do you understand what that means ?'"
They were'nt found not guilty, the prosecution offered no evidence in return for their guilty pleas to assault. The fact that reardon was made to pay for the door kind of proves he broke it.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"They were'nt found not guilty, the prosecution offered no evidence in return for their guilty pleas to assault. The fact that reardon was made to pay for the door kind of proves he broke it.'"
I can guarante you, had it PROVED that they or he had broken in then they would of both bin sent down.
A damaged door does not prove somebody as broken in. You kick a football at someones door. Door damages. You have then broken in ?
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| Quote ="Ashmeister"Reardon DID NOT! break into the house. He was found not Guilty. Do you understand what that means ?'"
my mistake, just trying to get a point over that leon has been imo, punished, fairly by the court and also by the club, for people to say he should be suspended for the rest of the season or even sacked is really beyond belief
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quite!! would appear the RFL are spineless, useless or powerless?? probably all 3 imo
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| Some people are idiots, if you look at the whole thing and put it into perspective there is no way he should have been sacked. Self-defence.
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| Quote ="bornasaint"my mistake, just trying to get a point over that leon has been imo, punished, fairly by the court and also by the club, for people to say he should be suspended for the rest of the season or even sacked is really beyond belief'"
as ive said i think saints have done what most other clubs in pro sport have done.
i think for the good of our sport! we need hard and fast rules. so nobody within the game is unclear about what is acceptable behaviour.
pryce is just one amost many who has brought our game into disripute and he's not the only one who is a repeat offender. within the last few years at least half the clubs in the league have all had bad press from players stepping out of line.
the RFL needs to step up and and be strong like the nrl
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| Quote ="saints35 bulls0"there was 3 charges against Millward:
1) abusing the Warrington media officer
2) abusing the Saints media officer
3) Swearing at the 4th official and subsequently lieing about it
make your own mind up about whether those 3 are worse than what Pryce did.'"
More to it than that, too.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Some people are idiots, if you look at the whole thing and put it into perspective there is no way he should have been sacked. Self-defence.'"
i agree sacked is very harsh indeed. but i think players should have a responsiblitly to the game!! they are the lucky few in our world of RL.
the real truth is that readon and pryce should have been no where near that flat.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"i agree sacked is very harsh indeed. but i think players should have a responsiblitly to the game!! they are the lucky few in our world of RL.
the real truth is that readon and pryce should have been no where near that flat.'"
I have to agree with thia, hindsight is great, but a bet pryce wishes he had not gone there now.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"I have to agree with thia, hindsight is great, but a bet pryce wishes he had not gone there now.'"
if there were harsh rules by the rfl for players who step out of line maybe pryce would have been at home sober like a lot of his fellow pro's for who personal disipline is a part of the life style as a pro RL athlete(as it should be)
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