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| Looks like Rogues was right with his post about an ex SL player resigning from Union. Wigan have resigned Thornley - probably as a replacement for Carmont.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"No chance for Manu. His form do far this season has been poor.
Houghton has been Hull's best player for me.'"
Interesting comment from a Hull fan about Manu, especially given his team has actually started performing this year. I hope he's not in decline already...
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| Quote ="Webbo"It was Andy Platt what it cost us.
Adrian Shathead had actually signed the RFL registration form for Saints, with the contract to follow. But wi*an nipped in, offered him more, and he signed their contract. Saints (and their lawyers) believed the signing of the RFL registration constituted the de facto acceptance of a contract. And, of course, lost. This was in the day when wi*an would buy a player as much to deny a rival team having them, as it was because the wi*an team needed that player.
I'll hate them till I die.'"
Yes indeed, but look on the bright side: those years of stealing players and trophies mean that they now have second billing in someone else's stadium to some chav's wedding for their biggest "home" game of the season. It can't help but make me laugh every time I think of it - overall the decade of pain was worth it
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| I got told today that saints have put the deal on ice on the say so of Nathan Brown.
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| Quote ="St pete"I got told today that saints have put the deal on ice on the say so of Nathan Brown.'"
Reputation on the line considering you have promised us he was signed sealed and delivered months ago!
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| Quote ="SomersetSaint"Reputation on the line considering you have promised us he was signed sealed and delivered months ago!'"
I was told by a player by txt this morning it's been put on ice, another player told me weeks ago that McManus, Brown and Manu met one Sunday afternoon and did the deal.
What's going on I don't know, maybe pen wasn't put to paper but was agreed? I just don't know!
Something going on tho or maybe the txt I got today is wrong?
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| Quote ="SomersetSaint"Reputation on the line considering you have promised us he was signed sealed and delivered months ago!'"
Reputation on the line, that's a little harsh, 99% of the things I've told on here have been true so far.
If I throw a dog a bone, I don't want to know if it tastes good or not.
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| Quote ="St pete"Reputation on the line, that's a little harsh, 99% of the things I've told on here have been true so far.
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Like what?
All I see are 10 posts a day about commings and goings yet none ever seem to happen.
You are like the sun newspaper, make up enough "exclusives" and law of averages will say you get one right eventually
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| Quote ="Saint77777"Like what?
All I see are 10 posts a day about commings and goings yet none ever seem to happen.
You are like the sun newspaper, make up enough "exclusives" and law of averages will say you get one right eventually'"
Team news, I used to post the team two days before until it got me in trouble, still pm it to certain people.
First with the Laffranchi signing. First to say Moore was going, well before any rumours even started. First to post eastmond had got injured and not playing in tge the CC final. First to post that pryce had got seroius neck injury. First to say josh jones was making his debut etc
That sort of stuff MR happy!
I'm sure most on here can vouch for my info being correct.
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| Quote ="SomersetSaint"Reputation on the line considering you have promised us he was signed sealed and delivered months ago!'"
I was told at the game yesterday that Brown does not want Manu and that Hull have already lined a player up, so no chance of him resigning for Hull.
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| Quote ="Saint77777"Like what?
All I see are 10 posts a day about commings and goings yet none ever seem to happen.
You are like the sun newspaper, make up enough "exclusives" and law of averages will say you get one right eventually'"
Pete normally gets things right. His team selections are pretty close and the transfer stuff is usually accurate too. Dont confuse his wish list with when he post something as about to happen ...
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"Pete normally gets things right. His team selections are pretty close and the transfer stuff is usually accurate too. Dont confuse his wish list with when he post something as about to happen ...'"
As I posted in the rumours thread before, I've been told he's signed by one player and told its now on ice by another.
So I don't know what's going on, the guy that told me he'd signed as never once been wrong yet but I'd also expect t the player player to be in the loop.
I can say for 100% fact that McManus, Brown and Manu met few Sunday's back (I was told the deal was agreed there and then)
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| Quote ="St pete"Reputation on the line, that's a little harsh, 99% of the things I've told on here have been true so far.
If I throw a dog a bone, I don't want to know if it tastes good or not.'"
Was joking, I know you are ( usually!) spot on
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| Quote ="SomersetSaint"Was joking, I know you are ( usually!) spot on'"
We just going to have to wait until its officially confirmed where he's going.
If saints have pulled out at this stage then IMO it's shocking, we've basically left him in limbo after he was prepared to up his family and move to saints.
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| When i first read about the possibility of Manu signing i was somewhat put out due to his age, and i must admit its still nags away at the back of my mind that we may be getting a player who is over the hill so to speak.
However i also remember the signing of another 32 year old forward Kevin Ward. Who had a real indian summer with Saints.
Looking at Manu's stats this year they are better than any other Saints forward.
Soliola for example is our top tackle buster in the pack with 25, Manu has made 60, which is way better than our best players stats.
Manu has also made 9 clean breaks which is more than any other Saints player bar James Roby who has 10.
Interestingly the top clean break merchant at Hull is Jordan Turner with 12. A player Saints are also rumoured to be after.
Manu is also hard working in defence being one of the top 4 tacklers at Hull, while being a clean player when it comes to giving away penalties. 15 other players at hull have been worse for giving away penalties.
He also loves to offload with 30 so far this season. Thats 10 more than Roby at Saints and more than double the next best player at Saints. He is in the top 10 in SL for offloading.
If Manu does sign for Saints then even if he starts to drop off a bit in performance. He will still be better than any of the forwards we currently have.
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| Quote ="The Chair Maker"Soliola for example is our top tackle buster in the pack with 25, Manu has made 60, which is way better than our best players stats.
Manu has also made 9 clean breaks which is more than any other Saints player bar James Roby who has 10.'"
He has impressive stats that is for sure
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| Quote ="The Chair Maker"When i first read about the possibility of Manu signing i was somewhat put out due to his age, and i must admit its still nags away at the back of my mind that we may be getting a player who is over the hill so to speak.
However i also remember the signing of another 32 year old forward Kevin Ward. Who had a real indian summer with Saints.
Looking at Manu's stats this year they are better than any other Saints forward.
Soliola for example is our top tackle buster in the pack with 25, Manu has made 60, which is way better than our best players stats.
Manu has also made 9 clean breaks which is more than any other Saints player bar James Roby who has 10.
Interestingly the top clean break merchant at Hull is Jordan Turner with 12. A player Saints are also rumoured to be after.
Manu is also hard working in defence being one of the top 4 tacklers at Hull, while being a clean player when it comes to giving away penalties. 15 other players at hull have been worse for giving away penalties.
He also loves to offload with 30 so far this season. Thats 10 more than Roby at Saints and more than double the next best player at Saints. He is in the top 10 in SL for offloading.
If Manu does sign for Saints then even if he starts to drop off a bit in performance. He will still be better than any of the forwards we currently have.'"
Take a look at the Gilly situation too, I must admit at the time I though we may have made the correct call given his age etc but he has proved with his performances that letting him go and keeping the likes of Ned was a poor choice. Hindsight is a wonderful thing
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"Take a look at the Gilly situation too, I must admit at the time I though we may have made the correct call given his age etc but he has proved with his performances that letting him go and keeping the likes of Ned was a poor choice. Hindsight is a wonderful thing'"
We got rid of Gilmour at the right time.
Dont get all this Flannery hatred. He has been one of our most consistently good forwards over the last few years.
Far better than Soliola who was a liability until this season.
As for Stats well this season Gilly has made just 550 metres compared to Flannerys 785
Flannery has made 333 tackles with just 17 misses
Gilmour made 253 tackles 15 misses
Flannery 8 tackle busts Gilmour 5
Flannery 4 clean breaks Gilmour 1
Flannery 4 tries Gilmour 1
A classic case of fans looking over the garden wall and thinking the grass is always greener in the other garden.
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| Flannery is a very good player who will be missed next year. He lacks a bit of mongrel but so does a lot of this pack unfortunately, someone like Manu would be ideal to replace him. Interesting development if true as I've been told he's signed already so I'm not sure there's much room to maneouvre.
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| Quote ="The Chair Maker"When i first read about the possibility of Manu signing i was somewhat put out due to his age, and i must admit its still nags away at the back of my mind that we may be getting a player who is over the hill so to speak.
However i also remember the signing of another 32 year old forward Kevin Ward. Who had a real indian summer with Saints.'"
You're not seriously suggesting the intensity of the two games are sufficiently close to think Manu stands an equal chance?
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| Quote ="The Chair Maker"When i first read about the possibility of Manu signing i was somewhat put out due to his age, and i must admit its still nags away at the back of my mind that we may be getting a player who is over the hill so to speak.
However i also remember the signing of another 32 year old forward Kevin Ward. Who had a real indian summer with Saints.
Looking at Manu's stats this year they are better than any other Saints forward.
Soliola for example is our top tackle buster in the pack with 25, Manu has made 60, which is way better than our best players stats.
Manu has also made 9 clean breaks which is more than any other Saints player bar James Roby who has 10.
Interestingly the top clean break merchant at Hull is Jordan Turner with 12. A player Saints are also rumoured to be after.
Manu is also hard working in defence being one of the top 4 tacklers at Hull, while being a clean player when it comes to giving away penalties. 15 other players at hull have been worse for giving away penalties.
He also loves to offload with 30 so far this season. Thats 10 more than Roby at Saints and more than double the next best player at Saints. He is in the top 10 in SL for offloading.
If Manu does sign for Saints then even if he starts to drop off a bit in performance. He will still be better than any of the forwards we currently have.'"
When I did a head to head stat on the super league website (when it had the head to head) in manu and sia, manu blew him out the water in everything. Meters, breaks, tackles, off loads etc
The only sticking point for me is the length of the deal.
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| ^ Is it two years? Any more than that would be madness.
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| Quote ="SFW"^ Is it two years? Any more than that would be madness.'"
I'm guessing it's 3yrs. Hull offered him 3yr deal which he's turned down.
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| THREE YEARS!
Have people completely taken leave of their senses? How many 36 yo players regularly do the business in SL?
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| Three years if true is absolutely crazy, and were I Nathan Brown I'd be trying to put a stop to it aswell.
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