Three terrific signings it has to be said. Wigan will be even stronger all over the field next year, which is ominous given where they already are this year.

Two great signings for Wigan, not so keen on Finch but he should be a decent signing for Super League level. Certainly a better scrum half than anything they have at the moment, I assume that Leuluai will move to nine to become a 'scooter hooker'.

Who are Wigan releasing to accommodate these out of curiosity? Riddell, Bailey and Fielden?

Riddell, Palea'aesina, Bailey, Phelps, Deacon are five who won't be there (Deacon will but coaching only) next season. Prescott, McIlorum, Pryce and a couple of others also out of contract at the moment.

Has Coley re-signed yet?

No, rumours are that he (and Fielden) have been offered one year deals. Coley I believe has a job offer as he is a chartered surveyor. He has to do what is best for him and his family.

Fielden I would have given a two year deal, but I guess we'll have to wait and see.

Why is it obvious that the melbourne players knew what was going on?
Do you know what everyone you work with earns?

Pretty much yes. All the this keep your salary secret crap (within a company) is a management ploy that came about in the industrial revolution to keep people down and stop people looking for pay rises

And Rugby players tend to have mates in there team so there more than co-workers so they will drink and talk. If you wanna kid yourself go ahead but they will all have been in on it , certainly all the senior pro's.

I don't agree.
I worked for a big multi national company for 38 years and didn't know what my colleagues earned. I knew their salary bands but not where they were inside those bands.

Im not kidding myself about anything,I'm not that bothered if the entire Melbourne squad were in on it or not.Cheating is cheating and they'll get what they deserve.
I was just wondering how you seemed to be so sure that they were all in on it but an inquiry found no evidence at all to prove this!

Very very difficult to prove and even if they did what exaclty would they prove? they were offered x amount of money and accepted it ..

the SC is the clubs responsibility not the players

Like I said very very old management ploy - encourage people to be secretive to save the company money 44

I've never been told by any managment I've worked for not to talk about my wage with my co-workers/mates.we go out,we drink,we talk too....but iv never asked/been asked what each one earns and I wouldnt expect to either.
Anyway thats getting away from the point.I totally agree that it would be very hard to prove and that it isn't the players responsibility anyway,but that still dosn't mean your right and that they were all in on it!

well we might find out when some of the player retire and write books.

As for the management ploy it's ingrained now and implied, alot of current working practices that we think of as normal came from greedy middleclass men during the industrial revolution, and it just gets worse , start work at 16 and work till you literally drop at 70 .. and we all just accept that as normal lol, crazy really

I retired at 60 with a healthy company pension. It worked well for me.

So how long you been retired brian?

That WILL make for interesting reading!

Best years of your life are still gone though .... and sadly it's only getting worse - If I work till my retirement age (which I doubt I will) I'll need to work till I'm 68 I think , people younger than me will be working till there 75 I think

And what do you suggest doing instead?

Two years at the end of August.
Highly recommended.

Well there isnt much you can do as an individual. The system works you to death literally and we all buy into it becuase we've been essentially brainwashed from birth almost. It's all about lifestyle and if you look at alot of countries in Europe you can see they have the old work/life balance alot more sussed out than we do.

old bugger

That would make you 62yrs young.

I've got a good few years left before I retire, I'm only young lad still

Why will the young need to work until they 75?

I won't be!

depends what you call young. The retirement age will keep going up and up , it has too because were skint as a country and people are living longer. I'm 31 and I doubt I'll be able to retire on the state before I'm 70, according to the current rate of increase I will be at least 68.

Jesus, cheer up! Your only 31 and moaning you'll have to work until your 68!



I'm also 31 but I'm not worried il be working until I'm 68, I hope to be finished by 60 or before.