Nothing overconfident appart from suggesting we need to offer ourselves up to the rain gods? The obvious allusion being we can't compete on a dry track?

No I just think a dry pitch will suit WIGAN better than a wet one. Read what I writted

rather than what YOU thought I did.

I did read it - it said "I suggest you start your rain dance now."

Spin it how you wish, but it's a clear reference to us needing conditions to be a leveller against the mighty Wigan.

The rivalry is back.

You bunch of horrible scousers.

If Saints can turn over Huddersfield which will be very tough, and Wigan defeat Leeds which is highly likely, then the derby game should be a belter and another sell out at the old girl.

Wigan have looked impressive this year, and their defeat at Bradford was due to a freak second half with their first half performance more akin to what they have served up this year.

It'll be good to have the pies back here thinking they are going to win for once....

But just think how distraught you'll be when we do win the final derby at KR.

Is it just me who doesn't attach any significance to the "last game against X" at Knowsley Road?

The very last game at KR will be emotional, all the others are just another game to me. hopefully we only have one last game at KR, unlike Warrington who had about 27 at wilderspool.

No, it means little to me. I'd much prefer to concentrate on winning the title rather than individual games against local rivals.

We'll get the same in the new ground.

Exactly and IIRC that old dump is still standing?

As for last game this and that - with a playoff systems we really dont have a clue when our last game against team x will be at this stage in the season.

They're still upset that the last try scored at Central Park was by the one and only Tommy God

No we're not, but we would have been upset if we had lost the game.

We won and that's all that matters.

He's already been. Several times.

Or that Wigan, with undoutedly the pacier backs, would benefit most from a dry track. You're getting very touchy FTV. Twitchy a*rse by any chance?

Not twitchy at all. I just don't think we've reached the point where we worry about the weather forecast when we play Wigan yet.



If you think Saints ever hope for rain rather than dry tracks, regardless of opposition, you've obviously not watched us play very much.

Wow! Massive turn around in opinion of you Saints fans after the win against Warrington.

Warrington were very unlucky they did not have a recognised kicker, they dominated territory and possession in the game, if they were 50% clinical in taking their chances they would have won the game, but they were poor in attack, and still scored 4 tries! I attended the game and Warrington made you look very very average for large parts of the game. We shall see.

I'm assuming this was after us leading 20-6 mid way through the second half . . . . .

The first half you got away with it and you know it

and bradford made you look e for half of the game netween you two

I think the only way we could have got away with it more is if Wire had dropped the ball over the line with a match winning try begging.

Well you are pretty poor in the rain, so I'll concede the point!




(yeah, I know we are too, before you say it!

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I'm not denying that, we've acknowledged that and bounced back with two fairly comfortable wins. All I was saying is that if Warrington had any structure to their attack in the game on Friday they would have beaten you IMO. Same happened with Wigan at the HJ, they dominated possession and territory but could not score enough points. Wigan and Saints have both been lucky against Warrington this year IMO.

By the way, I'm sure you said you couldn't make it to the match on Friday, so how would you know how the game went?

were we both lucky, or can they just not rise to the better teams? FTV has noted that the only decent side they have beaten all year is Hudds.