I suppose not, but only if the two parties agreed to scrap the contract then it could be done.

Although I don't think that we [ineed [/ihim I have got used to the idea of having him and I'd be disappointed if we didn't get him now.

I hope you're right

I didn't realise Hull had given permission, so in that case he would need to be released. But if he had signed you think Saints would announce it. Very little to be gained from not announcing it, other than rumours.

I agree a prop would be more ideal but we have no idea what the club are working on and at the moment this is just a like for like replacement. Flannery out Manu in. Same could be said in terms of Turner for Meli. The question is whether it will leave any money for another prop, or enough money for another prop?

Quote ="bewareshadows"I didn't realise Hull had given permission, so in that case he would need to be released. But if he had signed you think Saints would announce it. Very little to be gained from not announcing it, other than rumours.'" www.hullfc.com/article/21146/clu ... ther-clubs If it isn't announced this week then I would start to think that something has happened to prevent the deal happening. Quote The question is whether it will leave any money for another prop, or enough money for another prop?'" Or even if there are any props out there!

Quote ="bewareshadows"I didn't realise Hull had given permission, so in that case he would need to be released. But if he had signed you think Saints would announce it. Very little to be gained from not announcing it, other than rumours.'" www.hullfc.com/article/21146/clu ... ther-clubs If it isn't announced this week then I would start to think that something has happened to prevent the deal happening. Quote The question is whether it will leave any money for another prop, or enough money for another prop?'" Or even if there are any props out there!

I honestly can't see it being announced until later in the year, maybe even after the 1st September or even when either hull or saints seasons over.

It's very rare it's announced when a player has signed for another super league club. I've known 6 month in advance we'd signed players but we've not announced it officially.

Shenton and LMS had signed months before it was announced. We'd agreed to sign Leon pryce about 12 month before it came out.

If you was Manu would you want it released?
Wait until seasons over first less hassle?

Given the strong rumours about the move, it would make sense to actually announce it - wouldnt make a bit of difference.

However, there are strong rumours that he may now be staying. Met with Gentle last Monday and said he wants to stay, Gentle said that the 3 year offer has been torn up so that isnt on the table, but we have offered a 2 year deal, on less money.

Just goes to show how desperate Hull are to keep him. They know he is quality, we know it, only person that doesn't is RG cause theres a 15 year old St Judes player on a scholarship that is the next Gaz 'Ock!

If he has gone back on the deal, expect Saints to be very unhappy.

that sounds very made up

Do they allow ugly, eye ball gouging, coke sniffing cretins at St Judes?

From James Smailes' twittor: '[i@James_Smailes: @tthorp87 @tdawes1986 As far as I'm aware there's no truth in Manu changing mind rumour, to be announced as Saints signing very soon I hear[/i' https://twitter.com/#!/James_Smailes/st ... 7517299712 He seems to be a very reliable source of information on anything Hull FC and if he hasn't heard anything then there can be a strong assumption that it probably is just a rumour.

From James Smailes' twittor: '[i@James_Smailes: @tthorp87 @tdawes1986 As far as I'm aware there's no truth in Manu changing mind rumour, to be announced as Saints signing very soon I hear[/i' https://twitter.com/#!/James_Smailes/st ... 7517299712 He seems to be a very reliable source of information on anything Hull FC and if he hasn't heard anything then there can be a strong assumption that it probably is just a rumour.

Quote ="Albion"From James Smailes' twittor: '[i@James_Smailes: @tthorp87 @tdawes1986 As far as I'm aware there's no truth in Manu changing mind rumour, to be announced as Saints signing very soon I hear[/i' https://twitter.com/#!/James_Smailes/st ... 7517299712 He seems to be a very reliable source of information on anything Hull FC and if he hasn't heard anything then there can be a strong assumption that it probably is just a rumour.'" As I said, he's already signed, it's just a rumour.

Quote ="Albion"From James Smailes' twittor: '[i@James_Smailes: @tthorp87 @tdawes1986 As far as I'm aware there's no truth in Manu changing mind rumour, to be announced as Saints signing very soon I hear[/i' https://twitter.com/#!/James_Smailes/st ... 7517299712 He seems to be a very reliable source of information on anything Hull FC and if he hasn't heard anything then there can be a strong assumption that it probably is just a rumour.'" As I said, he's already signed, it's just a rumour.

We all knows it goes on, but if the RFL rules say September 1st then that is what it should be when players get signed.

Look at the hassle Fozzard got when saints announced we'd signed him, he was booed.

The rumours of him staying can't be true, I know for a fact he met both brown and McManus the other Sunday and the deal was done.

Trust me, I have I ever been wrong?

Yeah but he has signed. He put a pen onto paper and squiggled his signature on the contract, he was allowed to do this because Hull gave him permission to speak to other clubs. There has been no breach in any rulings as he was given permission by his current club.

Adrian Shelford

He hadn't signed a legal contract though had he? Willie has and I'm sure the contracts players sign in the modern era are far more watertight than they were in the 80's.

He had signed a contract which is why it went to the high court, at great expense, and allegedly cost is Connolly, or so tge urban myths say.....

As Hull fans, know he is not staying as Pearson announced it and he also implicated Saints in his statement. Then it will make little difference to Hull fans whether it is official or not.

If they were going to boo it would be done now regardless as he is officially not staying. It may help that Hull are playing well. If Warrington had been flying in the table at the time of the transfer to Saints Warrington Fans may not have been so concerned either. Also distance plays a part. Going from Hull to Leeds would be more difficult to swallow than Hull to Saints.

Similar for Wire. If Fozzard had signed for Leeds, Bradford, Wire fans would have been far less bothered than a local rival.

Put it this way, mr Fozzard wasn't happy at all!

It seems to be common knowledge on these boards and on the terraces that he's signed for us, so I can't see why there would be a sudden burst of uproar if Saints did announce his signature.

The Hull fans that I have spoken to seem to have (well before the surfacing of this 'rumour') accepted that he's off.

I don't see what difference it would make to either club or player. Hull know he's leaving, saints know he's coming, he knows he's a saint and that's all that need to know.

I don't think the player wants it announced to be honest, we've still got to face them in super league and maybe in the play offs and it just adds pressure in him.

At the end of the day, nobody needs to announce it until after 1st September and I wouldnt be shocked if that's the case.

I started this thread ages ago now and all at fc had accepted the fact that willie was to move on, it does not mean we are not gutted, but we have accepted it. I personally feel that its professional to announce it after the season is over and not before, it shows a lack of respect for your current employers and followers to do it any other way. I wish him well and can whole heartily say you have enlisted one hell of a player who gives his all every match.

It was Andy Platt what it cost us.

Adrian Shathead had actually signed the RFL registration form for Saints, with the contract to follow. But wi*an nipped in, offered him more, and he signed their contract. Saints (and their lawyers) believed the signing of the RFL registration constituted the de facto acceptance of a contract. And, of course, lost. This was in the day when wi*an would buy a player as much to deny a rival team having them, as it was because the wi*an team needed that player.

I'll hate them till I die.

Bit more to it than that. Clegg(saints director)was called a totally unreliable witness by the high court judge.
Buffoons that lot.

If he's signed, who cares if it's announced now or on 1st September?