Spot on.

Brown should come out and distance himself from the wests job and show saints he's committed to us.

My only concern with Brown is the constant talk of him going to the NRL.

Thats not going to happen , if they offer it to him he'll be gone.

Knowing brown's past history of links with the nrl, I'd be surprised if his contract didn't have some sort of clause heavily weighted in saints favour if he decided to leave early.

You'd think so, but this is Saints we're talking about...

John Stankevitch, nailed on i heard.

All these coaches like the same thing - big forwards and quick PTB. Yesterday's news IMO and too easily combated on the big occasion, as Bradford used to find out when they played us (back when we could win a final).

Don't you think that he should test himself at a lesser club first? You don't jump from being manager at Blackpool to Juventus. You have to prove you can handle tougher competition first and it's huge step up from the championship to the top flight these days, just ask Millward.

Agree with this.

You may pinch Potter from Bradford his future is still in limbo

I wouldnt worry about that.

Mock all you like but we could do worse. It's more likely that I'll be Saints' next coach though.

Potter was badly done to here. Our kids would have been in a better position now for a start if we had kept him over Simmons and Rush.

Very true. If you remember back, Potter was grossly unpopular due to the style of rugby we were playing. It was all about defense, our attack was horrific. We went something like 20 games without scoring 20 points I seem to remember. It just wasn't the Saints way and he was fired.

Rush and Cunningham was an enormous mistake, the club panicked and got rid of a coach they should never have appointed. Rush then did away with the progress Gaskell and Lomax had made and could easily have ruined the development of several of our younger players, as none of them have progressed this season. When Royce was fired, we should have brought Brown in. If not, a proper coach should have been appointed, who could have nurtutred the younger players, rather than simply dropping most of them.

Royce and Rush have also continued Potter's legacy of boring, playing the percentages rugby. But is this their fault I find myself asking? Or is it due to the limitations of the squad they have at their disposal? We've been over how awful our recruitment has been, so what exactly is there for these coaches to work with? We have the worst set of 1-5 backs in Super League's top half, we have no halfbacks (We do have Gaskell but stubbornly refuse to play him) and a solid, but often out enthused and dominated pack. How are they supposed to play an entertaining brand of rugby with that squad?

Er... interesting rewritting of history.... Potter was sacked.... mmmmm

We managed very well for 2 games this year, so it shows the squad is capable.

5 straight run ins and a mediocre kick is a coaching decision (plan B = 4 straight run ins and a mediocre kick).

This squad is well capable of better. They are a top 4 squad. Freeing them of the shackles of 'safety first' coaching instructions would show this. As it did in those infamous two games.

Completely agree. These players are more than good enough to win trophies. It's not like any other teams are stacked with wizards. I mean, who is the best centre of the top four? Goulding? (Don't anybody dare suggests Atkins) Goulding is solid but he's hardly the kind of players that's got a chasm between him and what we've got. There are a handful of players that are better than what we have but certainly pack wise there aren't many that are an upgrade on what we have i.e. would anybody really swap Soliola for a forward at Wig, Wire, Cats, Leeds etc?

Powell coached Leeds for two seasons quite well if I recall getting quite far in all comps.

He was 'moved' sideways for Tony Smith but many would argue he'd started the improvements that led on to much success.

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I agree, for all this talk that we need a new prop, we've got a decent set of 5, plus Soliola and now Manu in the sencond row.
Rather than sign another prop, we may just be better buying a rocket to stick up the of our current players.

The team desperately needs one type of player - someone who organises, distributes and can kick out of hand. Everything else can be acheived with gameplan, coaching and motivation.

I real out and out tough prop would be nice but I agree, the postion we need more than anything is stand off.

Did tell you all what NB was like but was shouted down, sour grapes etc

NB wants a job in oz end of, the fact is at he moment he isn't good enough so no NRL clubs want him.

NB likes to have clauses wrote into his contracts, all I will say is don't expect any loyalty

Hat you say is spot on, he hasn't shown enough yet to get an nrl job. The only way he will is if he brings success to saints, and that has to e winning something, not just getting to a final. No matter what coach does that, they will be in demand, that is something we have to live with. If brown brings trophys to saints and then goes to the nrl, good luck to him. I'd sooner have that than three years of mediocrity from the likes of potter who was never likely to be hunted by the nrl.

Mate: get over it and get on with the rest of your life...

Exactly. Brown couldn't get a gig in the NRL six months ago and has since been sacked from Hudds.
If he wants a head coach role in the NRL, then, given he's at a big UK club with one of the better squads, he has to show he can actually get a club to win something.
Hudds were (no offence) low profile to carry excuses for not winning trophies - look where they were when he took over, don't have as good a playing roster etc. At Saints, there's no such excuse - you've got two jobs 1) Win trophies and 2) Beat Wigan.