He would know that if you add all those players ages together at the start of next season the average would be 30+

Wigan fans are obsessed with young players that it's becoming slightly worrying.

It's great if you can have a team full of homegrown but if we was to win things with a team if over 30s then I don't care.

It's not about who plays the youngest players, it's about who wins rugby games.

The fact we've had swift, makinson, wheeler, jones, Gaskell, lomax, clough, greenwood, Forster, foster, flanaghan, Magennis all young lads should have the Wigan fans jizzing in their pants.

But none of them is anywhere near as good as any of the Wigan young players, didn't ya know?

That's clearly obvious



Funny thing is, wigan for the past 20 years have the biggest reputation for binning young lads in favour for older overseas players.

Maurice wasn't worried about it!

Its becoming a unhealthy obsession of the chompers.

Rogues is just obsessed with putting the boot in at every opportunity, that's all it is.

Rumour over here that you guys have withdrawn your contract offer to Manu and he could now be staying with us.

I hope that is true. Good player though he may be, I would much rather us give proper, structured chances to local lads who had first team experience last year.

And besides, if we need to spend money on buying players in then where we need to spend is on two aggressive props, preferably under the age of 30 so that we might just have some good years out of them.

Which of those young players that were released would you have kept, and why.

How many of them would
1) Get into the current Wigan team
2) Get into the current Saints team.

There would only be one, IMO of course.

Longy
Gilmour
Brown
Hargreaves
Ashton
Farrell
Robinson
Wilde

All went on to play better when wigan let them go, yes they probably would not get into your side at present but your playing well at the minute but a few seasons ago you where rubbish pre-Maguire, and any of those players would have added something then?

I doubt it; if there was any uncertainty about our deal to him then Hull would never have announced and made it public that he's off.

Like who?



Like who?

Manu is a second rower yes? We have second rowers already.

The props I have no idea about. I just know that is where our money needs spending, if we're going to spend it on people from outside the club for next season.

Who are those second rows?

Someone who apparently 'knows Manu personally' has said that he has asked their coach about the possibility of staying...

its a rumour at the moment,but it wont go away,either way manu is a very good player

If he doesn't sign, it's hardly tge end of the world. A back rower isn't one of our priorities, although you would always want as many good quality players in your team as possible, and I believe he is good quality. I would be happier of we blew his wages on a centre, scrum half or prop.

Get him signed for 3 years.
Him and Soliola would do just nicely

Theres also a rumour in Leeds about Cameron Smith coming to play for Wakey! About as true as the Hull rumour id imagine.

We'll find out soon enough..

The advantage of Hull holding the player is that no one can actually sign him still September, so although we may have made the best offer, he can't put pen to paper until Hull let him and so rumours like this can continue until we actually can officially sign him.

They've given him permission to speak to other clubs, so that means that we can sign him now

He already has put pen to paper. Hull gave him permission to speak to other clubs.

According to the rumours that might not be the case...

I was told last week that the deal had been completed by usually reliable source. I think that it not being the case are indeed just rumours unless he can go back on a signed contract. It could be that a contract signed means nothing before September 1st, I'm not sure but I've been told that a contract has been signed.