There's never any hesitation for me; I'd shout for the Taliban Tigers against Wigan. I hope they get stuffed and we get to see Wane's big ugly sulking face all over the screen all night.

However, I have a feeling Wigan will nick it. I can see Leeds going ahead early doors but Wigan will pinch it in last 10 mins.

Sounds like one of Marwan Koukash's franchise ideas that.

I could never bring myself to support Wigan in anything.leeds all the way for me and that hurts saying that.

Supporting Leeds to the hilt. I also feel Wigan will beat them. They are like us last year, their semi final was so easy it was effectively a bye. Leeds were flogged and lucky to win their semi, so they will be hurting. When your best forwards are 38 and 39 and your dangerous individuals are almost all over 30, that's got to have an impact.

A Leeds win would also be the moral victory, they've been the best side all year and have played the game the right way. Wigan are still playing anti-rugby and are horrendous to watch. Some of the stuff coming from Wane and O'Loughlin has been utterly ridiculous and as disrespectful as you can get. I think Wane has been showing his true feelings, after being muted by the club PR line post-final last year. All the 'It was a moral victory' stuff is just pathetic, punching an unconscious man is a criminal offense and a very serious one at that, how he didn't end up in the slammer is beyond me. If someone did that on a night out in front of the Police, they wouldn't be out by now that's for sure. But rather than condemn him, they are claiming to be the victims in it and lauding Ben Flower as the hero of the piece, something Sky are also guilty of, rather than the 'lucky to be playing at all' dumbass he is in reality.

It's going to be horrendous viewing, Phil Clarke there with his tissues at the ready. Sky really shouldn't be allowing that, time for a complete overhaul of their commentary and presentation teams.

Wish I was a fly on the wall in that dressing room to witness Shaun Wane's charismatic, inspirational speech...

"Tek th'eds off, th'it um sooo fard the tafe fall arrttt muuurrrr muuurrrrr murrrrr hey Sean, smell tha finger, tha's had it stuck up Ben's ringer f' last ten minutes to keep it wam".

I agree with the comments off Saddened in fact I could have wrote that myself

It goes against the grain but I would rather see the pies win, the amount of losses in big games to Leeds over the last decade has took it's toll. Our friends from Greater Manchester simply haven't inflicted the same kind of misery in that period.

I also don't want to see the 'Whinos' win their first (yes first) League and Cup double. (so much for being this so-called huge 'super club')


I'm away all day Saturday so won't be even be watching it and will hardly be cheering if I get news the goons have won. Particulary as some of their fans are still spouting over on their board we somehow won it be default last season. But I think the extra days rest, plus a Semi Final win against feeble opposition, will count for so much on the day. The pies by 8-10 points.

That said, I will still have a sly chuckle at Wane, Flower etc should Leeds get a result.

I don't buy into this idea that Leeds will be at a disadvantage because of the intensity of the game against us. Playing in high intensity games sets the standards higher than easy run outs against underperforming/poor opposition. The Challenge Cup final showed that imo. I've also heard of it being said of the NRL and that makes them teams more battle hardened.

It's a medical certainty that it takes Leeds' better players longer to recover than most sides. Peacock, Kylie, Burrow, McGuire and Sinfield are their key men and they are all old men.

I fear you are correct.....but one thing we should never do is write this team off. Saints and Leeds gave us a match worthy of the GF last week: two teams gave everything possible and it was a pity there had to be a loser. Leeds are down on significant numbers too (Aiton, JJB and Stevie Ward - plus Sutcliffe - who would all be in the 1st choice 17) but I really do not want to see Wane's smug face vindicating his team's 'ugly' slowing the PTB tactics.

Hopefully the Leeds players will be also suitably inspired to avoid that nightmare scenario.

Leeds for me, too. Firstly, they are not Wigan (and that's reason enough). Secondly, it's been a privilege to watch their key players, Sinfield and Peacock especially, despite the pain they've inflicted on us. I'd like to think this is Sinfield's last hurrah, but I have a suspicion that there might be more pain to come in the shape of Sinfield as a clever and successful Leeds coach of the future.

I see Matty Smith is at it as well.



Well, what a hero. What bravery he showed when he was mercilessly sent off, ruining his hard work and dreams. How fitting would it be to see him finally right the wrong and win at OT.

I'd expect such utter nonsense from Wane, as he hasn't got the intelligence to do anything with any grace or thought. But Matty Smith? I guess he's gone full Goon hasn't he.

I'm with you, mate. Totally agree. It's embarrassing and shows a lack of class.

I think it's called being a team mate.
What should he say on the eve of a final? Should he say castrate him for being at twonk?
Get a grip.

He could be more respectful. Nothing wrong with, "Oh we just want to forget about it. Tomorrow is about the fans, not me not Ben". Or "I don't really want to talk about that, tomorrow is about winning for the supporters, he let them down and we want to make up for that". You don't have to criticise him, but you don't have to try so hard to glorify it either.

Wane has claimed last years Grand Final was a moral victory for Wigan. Punching an unconscious man is a moral victory? You can't see why this comes across as disrespectful and inappropriate? I agree that it shouldn't define this Grand Final as well as last years, so why mention it? Why give the press and the PR men words to sensationalise and write about? Why not either deflect it as I did expertly above, or refuse to talk about it? Why pretend it was something it clearly wasn't?

"Last year was a moral victory for us, with 12 men. If I was Saints, I'd have been disappointed to only win by that score."


His team are playing Leeds but he still can't help having a pop at us can he? He's obsessed with us.

I can't and won't disagree that ideally the Wigan squad should deflect from answering questions on the issue but maybe it's more difficult to do so in the heat of an interview.
SW stated that playing for 78 minutes and getting so close was a moral victory.
The guy quite rightly got 6 months and if had been 12 I personally wouldn't have complained however, he has taken his punishment and ideally as a game we should move but the bone idle national press won't allow it.
I think as opposing fans we will have great difficulty in agreeing on this one.
Flower effectively took away the chance of Wigan winning last year but to give the lad his due he has got his game back on track and for me that has taken a great deal of character in doing so.
At 25/1.for MOM he represents great value if you fancy a punt.

I want Leeds to win as I never want Wigan to win anything

If the ref allows Wigan to slow the PTB down they will win. It's up to Leeds to force there own tactics on the ref from the startand set the pace of the game

ISIS Sharks?

Can you imagine if Flower got sent off again. Will he be targeted by Leeds?

I'd support ISIS against Wigan, but the hysteria about the inspirational hero Ben Flower makes me want Leeds to win even more.

Loving this. Let's have some more 50/50 video ref calls and watch Wane's spud head fall off. A

I am so glad that this actually happened. So it tortures Wane like last year when his idiotic player assaulted Lance.

Wire have the worse percentage in losing in a grand final but Wigan are now catching up with 5 losses from 8 appearances. A question could saints have performed any better than Wigan tonight.