If we win tonight we could give the League Leaders Shield a good shot, I think the play offs towards a final might be too tough with all our playmakers sat in the stands.
We would need some teams to pick up injuries to like wise players then we might stand a change with our pack that has toughened up these past few weeks.

I could see us taking out the league leaders shield, partly through a backs-to-the-wall attitude, but also partly because there's every chance our rivals will slip up in the coming weeks. I can't see us winning against Wigan, Wire or Leeds in the playoffs, though.

We have

Hull
Wakey
Leeds
Warrington
Huddersfield

Unless we can fluke some serious points I can't see us getting a better points difference than Leeds or Wigan. So if we lose our game advantage we drop a place.

Hull I think is winnable, they have their issues at halfback too. But the rest of the games should go true to form this week.

Wakey at home, I'd hope we win. Only Hull KR away seems to be dodgy that week for Wigan.

Leeds Away is tough, but it's after the CC final so who knows. If Leeds get to the final will they all play again and be up to it on the Friday??

The Week we play Warrington it's at home and they have had a dip in form recently. Also Wigan and Leeds play each other so someone is going to lose a point.

I'd give us 50/50 of getting top spot. 2nd is no better than 3rd really as it's a tough draw.

If you get top spot, you have to be favourites to make the final, but in our case probably not win it.

If we beat Hull and Wakey, our chances go up a hell of a lot. If there are any shocks and Leeds lose one. Then I would put us as favourites.

Out of play offs without a win. Even with the good player we'd have struggled. With Walsh, Lomax and Wilkin all out, we simply don't have chance.

I'll take that bet.

If I win you have to refrain from bashing Wello till March 2015.

If I win I will stop posting entirely till March 2015.

I don't think any of us fancy us winning the GF.
The league leader's shield is a trophy, it may the 3rd in the pile, but its more than we've won in a few years.
Get it in the cabinet.

I'll say that won't happen. £100 to Steve Prescott Charity from the loser.

Nah! That wont happen. Saints will get to the last four along with Wire, Wigan & Leeds.

wigan warrington final.

Wigan win.

Leeds and saints will both lose in the GF semi against either wigan or warrington.

Obviously I'm biased, but even with my level head on, I'd agree with this, except if Wire make the Final we will win regardless of who we play. Not being big headed about this, because I've been watching RL for 32 years and I know when we have been poop beyond belief & I know when we've been brill (2011). We are not as good as 2011, but this Saturday against Leeds we will have a virtual full strength squad to choose from apart from Ben Evans who is no more than 3 weeks away. TS has managed his squad to perfection so that all our players are fit and ready for the big games to come ( I know luck does play some part in this).

I have been saying since February that the G/F will be a repeat, my belief has been blown off course a few times, particularly early season when Wire were 3rd from bottom & playing awful Rugby. If Walsh, Lomax & Roby had all been fit now, then it would be any 2 from Us, Saints or Wigan for the G/F. Leeds have never been in my serious reckoning.

St Helens (34 - 236) - Wakefield, Leeds, Warrington, Huddersfield
Wigan (32 - 400) - Hull KR, Widnes, Leeds, Warrington.
Leeds (32 - 289) - London, St Helens, Wigan, Hull FC.
Castleford (32 - 273) - Warrington, Bradford, Wakefield, Catalan.
Warrington (30 - 217) - Castleford, Huddersfield, St Helens, Wigan.
Huddersfield (30 - 134) - Widnes, Warrington, Hull FC, St Helens.

Castleford have the best run in, play today vs London. They'll be two points behind providing they win today, you'd expect vs London a big points for too.
Not sure how they'll do it for final game of season when Wigan play Thursday, Leeds play Friday, Castleford play Saturday and St Helens play Sunday.

EDITED - after Castleford, Huddersfield played Today.

Usually very optimistic but if we win any of our remaining games I'll be surprised.

Looking at them fixtures id say Cas have a great chance of getting the Hub.

If saints don't win it (no chance IMO) then I'd like cas to take it.

I'd love it if Cas won

We need Warrington to beat Castleford and Wigan, then Wigan to beat Leeds.
Saints can only lose one more game if the above happens to get top spot.

Looking at that fixture list it is well within the realms of possibility that we could end up 6th, and even including in that a win against Wakefield.

I don't think 6th is mathematically possible with the combination of games even if we lost everyone.

But I could be mistaken.

Taken from the Wigan site.



That would be fun!!

Shouldn't the thread title be changed to "Impossible to finish top", given our customary implosion due to practically all our key players being out injured and Brown trying to force square pegs into round holes?

BLimey someone has had the chalk boards out.

I was just trying to do it in me head

We don,t usually have an implosion at the end of the fixture season, sometimes we are slow starters or the occasional mid season slump, its different this year in that our results are not predictable due to our Jeckyll and Hyde performances. My opinion is that we need to win 2 games to finish in the top 4.

With Roby being our last surviving playmaker, if the opposition shut him down then we are in trouble to create anything of significance.

We are 3 points better at the moment than our Superleague 13 standing which might suggest the game is weaker and levelling out.

Remind me the last time we won the Grand Final. Even when we've been favourites and the best side through the season there's been times we've choked.

We should be way ahead of every other club in the terms of silverware in the SL era. That we're not is bloody annoying.

This thread we are talking about finishing top of the league, a grand final is a seperate issue.

Definitely is. It may come down to points difference for 6th but it could easily happen

Us bei 3 points better does not mean the competition is weaker. I would say we should be better given that we have had Walsh and Amor added to the ranks.

If we had the same points as last year, then we would be a little disappointed.

It's hard to measure quality season to season. It's very in the eye of the beholder. In those 'better' years we still took hammerings against the Green and Gold. But given their increase in the cap you would expect that over the years WCC wins would become less and hammerings by them more often.