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| It'll be four from four on Saturday.
Leeds reserves have lost all three of their games to date and are second from bottom of the table.
Wigan beat them 66 - 10 on Friday.
The competition is a joke.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"It'll be four from four on Saturday.
Leeds reserves have lost all three of their games to date and are second from bottom of the table.
Wigan beat them 66 - 10 on Friday.
The competition is a joke.'"
Why are Leeds reserves so poor
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"It'll be four from four on Saturday.
Leeds reserves have lost all three of their games to date and are second from bottom of the table.
Wigan beat them 66 - 10 on Friday.
The competition is a joke.'"
Its better to be the best of a bad bunch than the worst of a bad bunch.
And i agree the comp isnt up to much when teams with supposedly good development structures like Leeds are getting beaten 66-10.
It appears to me that the competition is a dead man walking. Some teams see the purpose of a reserve league, but most have just written it off and are playing lip service to development.
Ultimately it will mean that the standard of junior RL will decline. Also promising young coaches wont be able to cut their teath in the reserve Leagues as well. Which will mean we will become even more dependent on aussie coaches.
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| Considering saints tend to send genuine reserves(not academy) players out on loan like moore, matty smith etc. , our success in this competition is very pleasing. Very dissapointed about leeds though, i thought they were better
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"It'll be four from four on Saturday.
Leeds reserves have lost all three of their games to date and are second from bottom of the table.
Wigan beat them 66 - 10 on Friday.
The competition is a joke.'"
I know it is the reserves and as such you play your reserves. But when you have the likes of Mathers and Smith etc. normal 1st teamers in the reserves team it can be sometimes misleading as to why the scorelines are like they are. Don't get me wrong I am not calling Wigan for playing them as there is no where else to play them.
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| Quote ="Agent Mulder"I know it is the reserves and as such you play your reserves. But when you have the likes of Mathers and Smith etc. normal 1st teamers in the reserves team it can be sometimes misleading as to why the scorelines are like they are. Don't get me wrong I am not calling Wigan for playing them as there is no where else to play them.'"
That was why they made it 8 (or 9) players over 21 years of age allowed to play in the reserves, to allow those player who were not in the first team to get match practice and fitness.
It also allowed coaches to drop players (like Mathers and Smith) but keep their match fitness up.
In our case it has weakened the reserve team.
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| only wigan would sign an ozzie to try and win the reserves comp!
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| Realistically the whole reserve grade system needs an overhaul. A Toyota U20 style competition with games played prior to the Super League fixture is the way to go. More experienced players coming back from injury or out of form would have to drop down a level on loan.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"only wigan would sign an ozzie to try and win the reserves comp!'"
Last year they made a big stink before the reserve team final about Saints possibly playing a few first team squad players in champ final.
As it happened Saints didnt play any first team players, but Wigan went ahead and played a number of first team regulars.
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| Quote ="The Chair Maker"Last year they made a big stink before the reserve team final about Saints possibly playing a few first team squad players in champ final.
As it happened Saints didnt play any first team players, but Wigan went ahead and played a number of first team regulars.'"
And then celebrated their victory on cherry&white as though it was a super league title.
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| Quote ="Eurob0y"And then celebrated their victory on cherry&white as though it was a super league title.'"
Its all they have, bless 'em
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"It'll be four from four on Saturday.
Leeds reserves have lost all three of their games to date and are second from bottom of the table.
Wigan beat them 66 - 10 on Friday.
The competition is a joke.'"
Goulding, Mathers and Tim Smith played for Wigan. With those 3 reserves in your team, Wigan should go well in the reserve league.
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| Quote ="~ No1 Saints Fan ~"Goulding, Mathers and Tim Smith played for Wigan. With those 3 reserves in your team, Wigan should go well in the reserve league.'"
Prescott and Mossup also played and yes they will.
But they'd be even better with Tomkins, Ainscough and McIlorum in there.
Seriously, wouldn't it be a much better competition if all the clubs adopted that approach.
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| The Reserves should play in the National Leagues. Its the best way to raise the standards in a poor comp.
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| Quote ="Noel Cleal"The Reserves should play in the National Leagues. Its the best way to raise the standards in a poor comp.'"
In some way I agree, but what would happen if one of the Superleague reserve sides won the NL1 competition.
Where would that leave the likes of Widnes, Leigh etc application for Superleague at the next franchise?
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| if they cant beat a superleague sides' reserve team they dont deserve a license
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| Quote ="Noel Cleal"The Reserves should play in the National Leagues. Its the best way to raise the standards in a poor comp.'"
That way they'd get a more competitive game but they would be way to many games to accommodate in a season.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"In some way I agree, but what would happen if one of the Superleague reserve sides won the NL1 competition.
Where would that leave the likes of Widnes, Leigh etc application for Superleague at the next franchise?'"
Good Question
Quote ="Saint Simon"if they cant beat a superleague sides' reserve team they dont deserve a license'"
And there is the answer. If your team is not good enough to beat a Superleague second team then why should you be given the opportunity to play the first team. How can letting in Widnes who can only just beat a Saints second team improve superleague?
Quote ="~ No1 Saints Fan ~"That way they'd get a more competitive game but they would be way to many games to accommodate in a season.'"
Well you would just create some more divisions then. 13 second teams plus 21 national league teams would go nicely into three divisions.
The quality of Second Grade football is much poorer in this country than in Austrailia. You can tell this by looking at the way Aussie 2nd teamers fit into the first team much faster than over here. It would also give National league players an incentive too. If you know you are playing against someone that is a potential first teamer and you outplay them that that is going to boost your chance of being spotted.
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| What was the Saints v Leeds reserves score last night?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"What was the Saints v Leeds reserves score last night?'"
They mentioned it on the tv last night, Saints won, but can't remember the score. It wasn't particularly close IIRC.
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| 30odd - sixteen. May even have totted up into the fourties.
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| More like 40 odd ski.
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| Cue orgasms from Rogues due to the winning scoreline being in Wigoon's favour.
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| Quote ="Carlos Alberto"Cue orgasms from Rogues due to the winning scoreline being in Wigoon's favour.'"
How does that favour Wigan?
Leeds have played four and lost four.
It would have been better from a Wigan p.o.v. for Leeds to have won.
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| Quote ="Carlos Alberto"Cue orgasms from Rogues due to the winning scoreline being in Wigoon's favour.'"
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