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| Quote ="silvertail-wolf"Saints weren't robbed
You were clearly second best and even if linehams try was ruled out (which I think was a try as his torso grounded the ball) then the game changes meaning the last Saints try wouldn't have happened
Kieran Cunningham was gracious in defeat and held his true thoughts well
It was tight but the best team won
Not one thread has said the best team lost, fact.'"
It's not about which team played best it's about who scores the most points and the officials got that wrong. You can't award victories based on who you think played best.
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| Quote ="Harry Pinner"It's not about which team played best it's about who scores the most points and the officials got that wrong. You can't award victories based on who you think played best.'"
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| The Warrington board is unbelievable. Apparently the officials didn't get anything, and they mean anything wrong. Nothing controversial at all.
Anyway, for what it's worth, I felt incredibly sorry for Saints tonight in what has to be one of the most incompetent and clearly biased officiating displays I can remember.
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| Re Walsh offside. If the players are in front of the kicker then they have to remain 10m away from the player catching it or the bounce of the ball. There were a good few saints players within that 10m.
You can ground a try with the torso.
Very harsh for Peyroux's try, but by the letter of the law there was no conclusive shot of the ball being grounded.
Saints not penalised once for have players in front of the ref in the defensive line, time and time again.
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| I honestly don't think Wire were better. I thought it was two average sides having an arm wrestle and the tries were what separated them. Two offenses in the lead up to the first try and a knock on on the second. Wire did nothing after that and trailed before it.
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| Quote ="Harry Pinner"It's not about which team played best it's about who scores the most points '"
Spot on..that exactly why Warrington are going to Old Trafford and your not.
video not 100% conclusive on the Saints no try...can't be given because the ref didn't award it....they are the rules.
Lineham gets it down..just.
Gidley scores end of.
Very happy that the best team over the season has got a chance to become champions.
Saints being crowned champs after the season they have had..that really would be a joke...thankfully its not happening
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| You can ground a try with the torso. - The ball was dropped forward on to the ground before torso (was it even torso?) rolled over the ball.
Very harsh for Peyroux's try, but by the letter of the law there was no conclusive shot of the ball being grounded. - The ball clearly grounds and hits the white line, we have a different opinion of what conclusive means + two wrongs don't mean a right - Ref was wrong to give no try on field.
And there were two offenses in the lead up to Ratchford's try - A knock on by Wire in the tackle and a few tackles later, the player (I forget who) did not tap the ball. These are all simple mistakes by the officials.
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| Quote ="Crackador"I honestly don't think Wire were better. I thought it was two average sides having an arm wrestle and the tries were what separated them. Two offenses in the lead up to the first try and a knock on on the second. Wire did nothing after that and trailed before it.'"
Let's get it right - one potless average side and the 2016 LLS Winners, Challenge Cup and Grand Finalists.
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| Hope Wigan or Hull smash that lot in the final. The fans are an absolute disgrace.
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| Quote ="Crackador"You can ground a try with the torso. - The ball was dropped forward on to the ground before torso (was it even torso?) rolled over the ball.
Very harsh for Peyroux's try, but by the letter of the law there was no conclusive shot of the ball being grounded. - The ball clearly grounds and hits the white line, we have a different opinion of what conclusive means + two wrongs don't mean a right - Ref was wrong to give no try on field.
And there were two offenses in the lead up to Ratchford's try - A knock on by Wire in the tackle and a few tackles later, the player (I forget who) did not tap the ball. These are all simple mistakes by the officials.'"
you seem like a sensible, level headed type of fella...I agree with some of what you say...you win some you lose some. Move on and hope you team isn't relying on the likes of Jon Headshot Wilkin next year.
I hope you'll be cheering for us in the final v Pies
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| Quote ="LFC Saint"Hope Wigan or Hull smash that lot in the final. The fans are an absolute disgrace.'"
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| As a netral I was amazed none of the Sky team questioned the GIdley try as grounded the ball short and then was held up over the line. yEt this was my commented on by anybody not even the so called expert Cummins. Then after consulting the video for 40/20's and other non-try scoring decisions, he takes the advice of the touch judge and ignores a knock on for one of the WIre tries. sUrely the time has come for all awarded tries to be automatically checked upstairs?
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| Quote ="LFC Saint"Hope Wigan or Hull smash that lot in the final. The fans are an absolute disgrace.'"
Oh dear, someone's upset, were the nasty Wire fans taunting you, diddums
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| Quote ="LFC Saint"Hope Wigan or Hull smash that lot in the final. The fans are an absolute disgrace.'"
Warrington are the Wire
Saints are the 'forward, forward forward' going by your fans- always bloody moaning
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| Quote ="Wires71"Let's get it right - one potless average side and the 2016 LLS Winners, Challenge Cup and Grand Finalists.
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That's exactly why tonight was tough to accept. We're so bloody awful, I can't believe we push you so hard, what a week era of Super League this is.
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| Quote ="CHEADLE LEYTHER"As a netral I was amazed none of the Sky team questioned the GIdley try as grounded the ball short and then was held up over the line. yEt this was my commented on by anybody not even the so called expert Cummins. Then after consulting the video for 40/20's and other non-try scoring decisions, he takes the advice of the touch judge and ignores a knock on for one of the WIre tries. sUrely the time has come for all awarded tries to be automatically checked upstairs?'"
This is a good point - when they're assembling the scrum, the vid ref has a quick check and can overturn an in-play decision - there is no benefit of doubt system in place, its just a common sense option while there's time. When a try is scored, there is easily enough time between touch down and kick to check and get in touch with the mic.
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| Quote ="Oxford Exile"icon_lol.gif'"
Ill take it. I hope you can do the same next week when you lose
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| Quote ="Crackador"That's exactly why tonight was tough to accept. We're so bloody awful, I can't believe we push you so hard, what a week era of Super League this is.'"
Come on the amount of success Saints have had in the modern era, you can't expect to be the best all the time and bound to have some off seasons. I agree the standard has dropped though. We are not a patch on our 2011 team.
You will forgive us for enjoying the rare, delightfully delicious, feeling as we beat you to reach a GF and silence the "Always our year" chants from your fans for at least one week.
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| Quote ="LFC Saint"Ill take it. I hope you can do the same next week when you lose'"
If we lose, we are used to it. We won't be bleating like spoilt children and anyway can always spend the off season polishing our hub cap. I suppose you lot can polish your Cunningham statue.
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| If the ref had ref'd the ruck properly we'd have been out of sight as you got away with an unbelievable amount of flops, were not square about a dozen times to your benefit and some of your moving off the mark was something to behold, I think Walmsley (has he played football by the way because his play-acting is pathetic?) moved about three metres forward from the mark on one occasion - and weren't penalised for anywhere near what your spoiling tactics should have been.
Had these been pulled up I doubt anyone would be moaning about the Lineham/Peyroux incidents because the margin would have been far greater as we'd have had far more dangerous field position to strike
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| Quote ="LFC Saint"Ill take it. I hope you can do the same next week when you lose'"
bless.
Seriously..it would have been a total travesty if Saints had got to the final...you're a very average team. Re-build needed. Bless Jon Wilkin..he does try.
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| Quote ="LFC Saint"Ill take it. I hope you can do the same next week when you lose'"
We're Wires, we can take defeat on the chin like no other set of fans.
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| Quote ="Oxford Exile"icon_lol.gif bless.
Seriously..it would have been a total travesty if Saints had got to the final...you're a very average team. Re-build needed. Bless Jon Wilkin..he does try.'"
Does he? If he's still that poor when he is trying, God help him.
Deary me and how poor is Roby these days? He really should never kick the ball, that's his worst attribute.
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| Quote ="Oxford Exile"icon_lol.gif bless.
Seriously..it would have been a total travesty if Saints had got to the final...you're a very average team. Re-build needed. Bless Jon Wilkin..he does try.'"
You won the game and you're in the Grand Final, yet you're on here trying to wind Saints fans up. You've no class.
For the rest of the Warrington fans, enjoy next week. Hope it's an entertaining game for us neutrals.
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| Quote ="Twentyman"You won the game and you're in the Grand Final, yet you're on here trying to wind Saints fans up. You've no class.
For the rest of the Warrington fans, enjoy next week. Hope it's an entertaining game for us neutrals.'"
Do you begrudge us a little bit of fun? The saints mob would have ribbed us mercilessly if we had "bottled it" again. Only banter amongst the rugby league family.
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