If last night was an attempt to avoid injuries, why not do a Millward? Rest Roby, Amor, Vea, Wilkin and do it properly? Roby didn't need the work he did last night.

It's amazing that we would rather play Leeds especially after them decimating plenty of teams including us this season, but I agree with you, Leeds look shot. Huddersfield could bottle it again. Wigan are the main threat, but if anyone can spoil their party it's their biggest rivals. Wane has probably been guilty of letting his emotions hijack his judgement a bit too much when facing us.

You lot are very disrespectful of any team that beats you.
We beat you fair and square last night and we were the better team.
Why don't you just have the sportsmanship to be gracious in defeat.

It's LONG season. It's very difficult to peak mentally for every game especially after a game like last weeks. So it's inevitable every team will have a few flat performances this season, and there's enough quality in this league to put any team to bed if you're not at the races.
To be fair to Warrington, they were excellent. All their key players were fantastic, and they're as good as anyone on their day. They will be much improved next season IMO, providing they add a couple of more players.

I live in Warrington and have done for 35 years. Nearly all my mates are wire fans and they were amazed by last nights performance by their team, given the performances over the last month or so that they have endured.

Maybe it helped wire to play with such freedom as it was their last match and with nothing at stake?
In any event they were the best team by a long way and the score did not flatter them.

You must remember though that you are on the Saints forum so people are not going to be concerned about how the opposition were, just how good or bad saints were (obviously very bad on this occasion).

The same will apply on your own forum.

He's a big unit and he runs big lines, and for his age that is a good enough contribution IMO. On an 'ins' line near the try line he's very difficult to stop. His footwork into tackling is a bit poor at the minute as are his reads in defence, but that will come with experience. Worthy of the hype for a young player having his first real break out year, just not England quality (yet) like some people have made out. He also needs to carry the ball more coming out of our own half I think.



There are two main elements to this.
1: we plant our feet when tackling way too early. We get away with it against teams like Wigan, where it's all straight/diagonal lines from their ball runners, because it just means we have more time to get set before a collision. Against teams with footwork i.e. Warrington, Leeds, they find weak tackles as a result. Thompson is the worst for this, but a lot of the team have this problem.
2: we don't have a wrestling coach. I remember this was in part of our defence when a player has a disciplinary hearing earlier in the year. But for me, that's a bit tactically naive. Wrestling is such an important part of the game nowadays, I'm amazed we've lasted this long without one. We as fans don't like slowing the play the ball down, but it is part of the game; Saints refusing to hire a wrestling coach doesn't stop other teams wrestling. We have a few good wrestlers in the team, Flanagan is one (potentially because he's got NRL experience) but they are few and far between.

You're right, you were the better team last night, well done. Don't mind us, It's just the high expectations we have of our team and we obviously don't like losing to mid-table teams.

i also suspect that saints are gearing up for 100% in training this week. From today this is now THE most important part of the season, one/two weeks worth of amazing training and ball work (not fitness as if you're not physically fit now you wont be in 2 weeks time) you will find yourself lifting the trophy. Lets hope saints have a real productive week in training with our attack and defence structures.

Well you'll be winning as many trophies as that mid table team Warrington this year; zero.

It's all very well getting up for, and beating, big clubs like Wigan and Leeds if we can't seem motivated against mid-table clubs.

An awful performance and well beat, but all will be forgotten and forgiven with a win next week.

How can you even post that? Trying to justify that your team failed to qualify (where HALF the teams get through btw) on your assumption that we won't win it. Supporters of joke clubs like yourself made the same silly statement last season. I'm sure you would swap positions with us in a heartbeat.

What are you on about? I'm not justifying anything - we have been poor and inconsistent this season and don't deserve to finish in the top 4. I'm merely stating that you won't win the Grand Final - that's my prediction.

As for being a supporter of a 'joke club' that joke club would have put 50 past you yesterday at home had the game not been on Sky.

Whats important is that we,ve already beaten you 3 times when it mattered for both teams, last night was a dead rubber game for the wire and from our point of view just an opportunity missed to perform against a team who struggled to stay in the top 8.
I would,t get too carried away with the 50 points prediction, on a good day for wire against a poor saints side probably the best you can do is a 30 points winning margin, thats a long way off the 50+, 60+, 70+ and 80 - 0 thrashings we've dished out by winning 42 games out of a 50 total.

Again, well done on posting what I think was your 9th win against us in nearly 50 games.

And yes, you had 5 tries disallowed by the video ref, some of them were actually ruled 'no try' by the ref but he went to the screen anyway. You're clutching at straws here. It doesn't even matter.

We're going on to bigger targets now, like trying to get to the Grand Final again. Whether we get there or not, at least we've given ourselves a shot.

That's outrageous if true. Especially considering Nathan brown was supposed to be one of the main culprits for bringing wrestling to the UK.

He'd be a fool not to IMO. Could easily imagine the two of you battering seven bells out of each other in a semi, only for the winner to fold in the final. I'd not be amazed if wigan perform as poorly tonight as you did last, probably due to the hangover from last week's contest.

Not sure what relevance that has. He sat drinking water and left at 8:30pm.

Could not agree more.

Quote ="Offside Monkey"That's outrageous if true. Especially considering Nathan brown was supposed to be one of the main culprits for bringing wrestling to the UK.'" www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/disciplinary/item?5984 "The club do not employ a wrestling coach and coach it’s players to get the opponents head into a safe position and allow it room to be released. " While it's an admirable stance to take, wrestling isn't just about injuring players. It's about slowing the PTB down and conversely us getting as quick a PTB as possible. To not try and improve this seems naive to me.

Quote ="Offside Monkey"That's outrageous if true. Especially considering Nathan brown was supposed to be one of the main culprits for bringing wrestling to the UK.'" www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/disciplinary/item?5984 "The club do not employ a wrestling coach and coach it’s players to get the opponents head into a safe position and allow it room to be released. " While it's an admirable stance to take, wrestling isn't just about injuring players. It's about slowing the PTB down and conversely us getting as quick a PTB as possible. To not try and improve this seems naive to me.

I am absolutely gobsmacked.

As I said...

All depends if you are on the same page me lord.

Are your 'not been Champions since 1955' nothing club brining out a DVD about this? Arranging an open top bus parade? Possibly both?

Love a bit of night fishing.

Plenty of nibbles, but like your team can't catch the big one.