Will you sort harping on about last season? It was a fantastic achievement and I was made up being a Saints fan. To suggest I enjoy us losing is just silly.

It's 2015 now Muggers. It doesn't matter what happened last season it's irrelevant now.

When they chose the SL team of the year, how many of our amazing forward line will they consider? The answer is Roby and Walmsley.

When McNamara picks his squad, Roby, Walmsley and at a stretch maybe Greenwood might sneak in.

Take Walmsley out of our forwards this season and we'd be much lower down the table. The man has been amazing this season. God forbid if he got injured, who would step up and do what he does?

Believe it or not, other teams have very good forwards. Leeds, you knock Wigan but they're performing better than ours!! Huddersfield have a strong set of forwards. Cas do!!! You knock Wire but they're no slouches with Hill, Sims, Westwood, Currie etc

I love my team, but I'm not blind to their deficiencies.

And you're doing it AGAIN. Do you even KNOW you are arguing with phantoms of your own imagination rather than a genuine flesh-and-blood human being?









At [uNO POINT EVER[/u did I say Saints' pack is the "best in the world". YOU said this.

What I DID say - at the beginning of the season and in the wake of our Grand Final victory was that this is the best pack in SL.

I stand by what I said. And I wouldn't trade our pack for any other.

I leave you now to either prove I claimed this pack is the [i"Best in the World - EVAH!"[/i (a Google search should do the trick) or quit making a fool out of yourself.

This is just silly. As stated earlier - that comment was first made in the PRE-SEASON, so the idea that it was out-of-date is completely absurd.

Since then the two biggest users of that statement have been [uYOU[/u & St. Pete (although he seems totally unable to quote me correctly!)



I've issued one challenge to St. Pete. I'll issue my second to you:

If you believe I was wrong when I made that statement then please tell me precisely which packs were superior to ours at that time.

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You got giddy and made a silly comment

I'm not debating about who had the best forwards last season...I'm talking about this season, as it is relevant.

We have a set of forwards who can match anyone on their day. Take Walmsley out and we're struggling. That said, if we can retain Savelio, Thompson, Richards, Greenwood, Charnock etc they'll develop into a belting set of forwards.

I think Geoff Foster of haydock is one of them fans that get giddy if win a few games and start coming out with outrragous posts that's made him a laughing stock on many forums.

He will be one of them that claps like mad when Walsh makes a basic straight forward tackle or giz in his pants if Mose makes two hit ups in his 8 min spell.

For a team with the best pack ever, we do a lot of kicking. Teams mainly kick early in the set when they are struggling to make meters. Take Roby and Walmsley out that best ever pack and we have no meter makers.

Should you be doing this kind of stuff to re in force your opinion.

That's out of order.

Muggers posted some (excellent) photos a few months ago which had his name all over them. He's since had conversations with Rogue and co were areas were mentioned. Pete has hardly revealed a shocking truth.

Marry that with the fact that Muggers revels in rubbing people up (unnecessarily) the wrong way.

6 of 1 half a dozen of the other. Keep your knives in.

Why?

What exactly have I done? He's posted some photos with his name on and it's been mentioned he's from haydock.

So ive not posted anytning that's not been posted before have i ?

See clause 1.5 of the AUP, which expressly forbids posting other people's personal details, including identity. It's OK for Mugwump to do that, but you may not infer from that that he has given you, or anyone else, permission to do the same.

In any case it's irrelevant to the argument.

My bad, I didn't know that so I apologise to Geoff. Sorry.

Try again if you really want!!

Forget about it.

Thank you

I'm seriously sorry for it and didnt think.

Our pack has underachieved this year due to two factors mainly, poor half back play and poor tactics. They've still been the main reason for most of our wins and us still being in games that we've lost. Other teams do have decent packs, but none of the top teams have had half backs quite as dysfunctional as ours have been this year (apart from maybe Wire, but their pack is poor).

Each team will have individuals who you'd take, Peacock at Leeds for example, but as a whole I think we do have the best pack in the league, and that's with Masoe only showing in fits and starts.