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| He gave Shenton a really tough time. That looked like a 'coming of age' performance to me.
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| Had a good game but Dawson will be back in probably regardless of his performance tonight.
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| I doubt it. You earn the shirt. I thought Dawson had done enough when he came in for swift to hold him out based on defense. But with Swift tonight he was as good as Dawson in defense, ergo he earns the shirt until he loses it.
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| He seemed keen on taking the ball in tonight but once when he had space to run he just froze.
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| He gets an awful lot of stick does Dawson on here. I like the lad, he's a safe, steady player and he works his backside off every game. He wouldn't be my 1st choice winger/centre but he's decent backup for injuries & poor form. He probably doesn't earn much on the cap either. Instead of slating him, saying he shouldn't even be in squad, never mind the team, let's be grateful for the way he's stepped in and done a job for us this season. No player should be undroppable. It's good that we've got lads like Dawson who are ready to step in, and that's part of the reason we finished top of the pile.
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| Quote ="Twentyman"He gets an awful lot of stick does Dawson on here. I like the lad, he's a safe, steady player and he works his backside off every game. He wouldn't be my 1st choice winger/centre but he's decent backup for injuries & poor form. He probably doesn't earn much on the cap either. Instead of slating him, saying he shouldn't even be in squad, never mind the team, let's be grateful for the way he's stepped in and done a job for us this season. No player should be undroppable. It's good that we've got lads like Dawson who are ready to step in, and that's part of the reason we finished top of the pile.'"
Don't disagree. The big flaw to Dawsons game is he doesn't jump for the ball. There's a classic example of Wakefield at LP - kick comes over he gets out jumped and the opposition score, turner just turned to him arms out like wtf? It almost happened again in huddersifeld had cudjoe not knocked on. BUT he's a solid player who works hard, and I've overall been impressed with him throughout the season (possibly because I had low expectation!)
That said Swift was like fresh air tonight, and whilst he looked a little unsure at first, he had a game which means he must play in the semi ...
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| I think we've missed swifty for his attacking play like last night. No disrespect to Dawson but he's not a threat like swift with the ball.
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| Quote ="St pete"I think we've missed swifty for his attacking play like last night. No disrespect to Dawson but he's not a threat like swift with the ball.'"
The breakaway try from Swift, if that was Dawson I think he would have been caught in the last couple of metres.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"The breakaway try from Swift, if that was Dawson I think he would have been caught in the last couple of metres.'"
I totally agree with this. I don't believe there's a question on who's the bigger threat. Swift is a talent I'm excited about. I just get bugged when supporters like Saddened (whom I do like) say that Dawson isn't worthy of being in the squad. With the salary cap & the fact that there's not as much money in rugby league, you need hard working squad players who are ready to step in.
Let's stop slagging our lads off cos they're not an Anthony Sullivan or a Darren Albert. Players who don't put 100% in a fair game for a forum lynching mind. You can't put Dawson in the less than 100% effort group any week. I'm glad we've got him in the squad.
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| Dawson is a bit like Meli, can,t jump and doesn't have great acceleration he should be developed into a back up centre. Swifty is more agile and dynamic his footwork is good when half a gap appears, the problem is creating an understanding with a regular centre at the moment it could be Wheeler, Percival or Jones, we need regular pairings for our outside backs.
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| Swifts stats certainly put him top of the pile last night, running 172metres in 14 carries, blasting Carneys stats, with no errors.
If it's good performances that keep you in the team Swift shouldn't have any concerns...
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Dawson is a bit like Meli, can,t jump and doesn't have great acceleration he should be developed into a back up centre. Swifty is more agile and dynamic his footwork is good when half a gap appears, the problem is creating an understanding with a regular centre at the moment it could be Wheeler, Percival or Jones, we need regular pairings for our outside backs.'"
Quite right good partnerships are a rare commodity these days especially through injury, communication and confidence in your inside man is essential if your not to come flying out of position all the time.
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| Was told yesterday Adam Swift has been told to find another club from next season
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| Quote ="Rommel"Was told yesterday Adam Swift has been told to find another club from next season'"
I don't believe that.
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"with no errors.'"
I thought he made a couple of errors in defence, his usual issue with moving in off his winger.
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| Quote ="EHW"I don't believe that.'"
I can't Brown needs his head testing?
Dawson or Ade Gardner (due back next year) last night would not have scored Swifts try last night in the corner? Yes Adams defence lets him down at times but offers far more in attack and work rate.
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| Quote ="Rommel" Yes Adams defence lets him down at times but offers far more in attack and work rate.'"
I was more worried about Josh Jones defence last night he makes me nervous, his indecision to committ to tackle is effecting Swifts read to defend.
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| yeah, id much rather have Swifts attacking threat and possible defensive frailties over Dawson who has zero attacking threat and isnt exactly Kevin Iro in defence either
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| Getting rid of Swift would be a pretty stupid thing to do.
I do know he was ed off about being pushed out by Dawson then Dawson getting young player of the year. So maybe there has been a falling out and that's why he's being asked to leave.
Nevertheless if it's true then that would be stupid work on Saints' behalf and poor man management.
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| I really hope this isn't true. There's uncertainties about Brown not even being at Saints next season so who would have made this call?
There's something not right though. We're developing a reputation for letting promising young lads leave.
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| Quote ="Twentyman"We're developing a reputation for letting promising young lads leave.'"
Are we? Other than Eastmond I can't think of a single youngster who we've let go that I wish we'd have kept, and that was beyond our control.
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| Well this is a good way to take the sheen off reaching the grandfinal.
Nothing but rumour to my knowledge...
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| Didn't McManus mention who was coming in and who was going out in the match programme because nothing was said about Swift. Just get the feeling Brown has a few favourites in the team, all Swift can do is keep performing making it more difficult to be dropped, if the player goes into a sulk he will grow out of it.
Also with the potential team for next season can't see any player wanting to leave.
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| Swift's got his flaws and is in his first full season. Not making the starting 13 every week shouldn't get his titty lip out.
Brown's stuck him back in for a playoff game without hesitation. He also shipped out Gardner on loan.
Even if he preferred dawson at this point, you still need back up - its not like Swift will be a big earner, so why would a youngster with plenty of talent be told to find a new club!?
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| First I'ev heard about this and I normally get wind of most things.
It's certainly not what we want banded about the internet for trolls to pick up on in the build up to a Grand Final.
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