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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"Without reading all the posts and talking about "intent", that tackle is an example of the why shoulder charges are banned.'"
The most intent was shown by Hohaia when Sutcliffe scored. As Sutcliffe is going for the tryline Hohaia tries taking his head off and actually goes so high that his arm goes over Sutcliffe's head which was lucky for the Leeds player otherwise he could've been following Percival in being helped off. A couple of inches lower and it'd have been 12 v 12.
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| Just send them all off , Evan for a bad attempt
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Quote ="Offside Monkey"Without reading all the posts and talking about "intent", that tackle is an example of the why shoulder charges are banned.'"
Here's the wording from the Operational Rules – Section - Sentencing Guidelines
Shoulder Charge
B-D Indirect or secondary contact with the head of an attacking player
C-E Direct initial contact with the head of an attacking player
GRADE NORMAL SUSPENSION RANGE
A.... NFA -1
B.....1 – 2
C.....2 -3
D.... 3-5
E.... 4-8
F.... 8+ or period suspension
So I'm guessing Grade C and a two game ban if he submits an egp.
media.therfl.co.uk/docs/On%20Fie ... -Final.pdf
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Quote ="Offside Monkey"Without reading all the posts and talking about "intent", that tackle is an example of the why shoulder charges are banned.'"
Here's the wording from the Operational Rules – Section - Sentencing Guidelines
Shoulder Charge
B-D Indirect or secondary contact with the head of an attacking player
C-E Direct initial contact with the head of an attacking player
GRADE NORMAL SUSPENSION RANGE
A.... NFA -1
B.....1 – 2
C.....2 -3
D.... 3-5
E.... 4-8
F.... 8+ or period suspension
So I'm guessing Grade C and a two game ban if he submits an egp.
media.therfl.co.uk/docs/On%20Fie ... -Final.pdf
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| I don't believe Moon is a dirty player and I don't think he went into the challenge intending to hit Percy high. However he did hit him high and it was correctly sent off. Heck TP got sent off before it was illegal to shoulder charge so there can be no argument.
I think it should be taken into account that players have been playing for years with shoulder charges being legal. So it will take a while for them to get the instinct out of their system. Previous bans would hint that the disciplinary committee don't agree with me.
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| Quote ="Noel Cleal"I don't believe Moon is a dirty player and I don't think he went into the challenge intending to hit Percy high. However he did hit him high and it was correctly sent off. Heck TP got sent off before it was illegal to shoulder charge so there can be no argument.
I think it should be taken into account that players havebeen playing for years with shoulder charges being
legal. So it will take a while for them to get the instinct out of their system. Previous bans would hint that the disciplinary committee don't agree with me.'"
The shoulder charge in itself is not a sending off offence.
It's the contact to the head that they are concerned about, and in Moon's case there was contact with intent.
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| He has been charged with a "C" offence with an EGP available.
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| Suprised nobody noticed what Ablett did in that tackle just a split second before Moon hits him.
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| I am sure you are going to tell us
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| Quote ="saint at wire"He has been charged with a "C" offence with an EGP available.'"
Just watched it again in slow mo, plenty of intent there lifting the shoulder to go for the head. Could have been a lot worse (broken jaw) if he had gone in with more momentum.
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Quote ="saint at wire"He has been charged with a "C" offence with an EGP available.'"
As I predicted.
Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Here's the wording from the Operational Rules – Section - Sentencing Guidelines
Shoulder Charge
B-D Indirect or secondary contact with the head of an attacking player
C-E Direct initial contact with the head of an attacking player
GRADE NORMAL SUSPENSION RANGE
A.... NFA -1
B.....1 – 2
C.....2 -3
D.... 3-5
E.... 4-8
F.... 8+ or period suspension
=#FF0000So I'm guessing Grade C and a two game ban if he submits an egp.
media.therfl.co.uk/docs/On%20Fie ... -Final.pdf'"
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Quote ="saint at wire"He has been charged with a "C" offence with an EGP available.'"
As I predicted.
Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Here's the wording from the Operational Rules – Section - Sentencing Guidelines
Shoulder Charge
B-D Indirect or secondary contact with the head of an attacking player
C-E Direct initial contact with the head of an attacking player
GRADE NORMAL SUSPENSION RANGE
A.... NFA -1
B.....1 – 2
C.....2 -3
D.... 3-5
E.... 4-8
F.... 8+ or period suspension
=#FF0000So I'm guessing Grade C and a two game ban if he submits an egp.
media.therfl.co.uk/docs/On%20Fie ... -Final.pdf'"
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| Moon is not taking the EGP and is appealing in the hope of being let off.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Moon is not taking the EGP and is appealing in the hope of being let off.'"
Is that not a bit dicey at this point in the season?
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"icon_confused.gif Is that not a bit dicey at this point in the season?'"
Even he gets the max (3) game ban he'll only miss the first round play-off game, Don't forget Peacock got off without any ban when he was cited in the Leigh Cup game.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Even he gets the max (3) game ban he'll only miss the first round play-off game, Don't forget Peacock got off without any ban when he was cited in the Leigh Cup game.
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Couldn't you have said 'Don't forget Matt Bowen got off without any ban despite nearly taking someone's head off off the ball in the first game of the season'? Or is it just Leeds players who ever get away with anything?
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Quote ="Big Jim Slade"Couldn't you have said 'Don't forget Matt Bowen got off without any ban despite nearly taking someone's head off off the ball in the first game of the season'? Or is it just Leeds players who ever get away with anything?'"
Matt Bowen was found not guilty with no charge ( www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/disciplinary/item?4920)
Jamie Peacock WAS charged, found guilty of a grade B offence and not banned ( www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/disciplinary/item?5448)
The only other person to fall in the latter category is Roby ( www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/disciplinary/item?5476), however the relevence in the matter is naught, owing to the fact the discussion was about a Leeds player challenging a disciplinary decision, and nothing else. Leeds fans dont half seem to have a complex this week!
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Matt Bowen was found not guilty with no charge ( www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/disciplinary/item?4920)
Jamie Peacock WAS charged, found guilty of a grade B offence and not banned ( www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/disciplinary/item?5448)
The only other person to fall in the latter category is Roby ( www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/disciplinary/item?5476), however the relevence in the matter is naught, owing to the fact the discussion was about a Leeds player challenging a disciplinary decision, and nothing else. Leeds fans dont half seem to have a complex this week!
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| Joel Moon suspended for two games.
Liam Farrell not guilty.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery".
Liam Farrell not guilty.'"
Naturally
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| Quote ="saint at wire"Naturally
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| How did he get found guilty. Clearly, Percival put his face in moon's shoulder.
It's a witch hunt I tell ya.
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