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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"Ran very strongly today and took a huge responsibility. A couple of times I noticed he took more than 1 carry per set.'"
Christ! I bet he was on his knees resting after that.
Don't think I've ever seen him take a 1st drive in or drive off a tap so far.
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| Quote ="dubairl"He made some good meters but i wouldn't call them barnstorming runs like he is capable of i don't think he made more than 12 runs if i am honest. Went of after the first 12 minutes and came back on in the 2nd half if i am correct. Used silverwood as a good blocker for the try tho.
Lets just say it wasn't a youtube highlight clip'"
But that's fine. If we had Amor, laffranchi and walmsley by his side, he could afford to be a bit more of a "barnstorming" luxury - what he did do was lead the pack, always had his hand up to take it in, always made metres after impact, found the floor to start a roll a couple of occasions and helped the kids around him. He typified his performance by being involved in the first 4 tackles in the match. Wasn't flashy, but was a very good prop forward performance. Was his best performance by quite some way, and a very good performance in general. Especially when you consider being overrun by huddersfields large pack was one of my greatest concerns, he played a large part in putting us on top (that and Huddersfield were worse than we were last week!)
Took his try well too!
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| Quote ="dubairl"He made some good meters but i wouldn't call them barnstorming runs like he is capable of i don't think he made more than 12 runs if i am honest. Went of after the first 12 minutes and came back on in the 2nd half if i am correct. Used silverwood as a good blocker for the try tho.
Lets just say it wasn't a youtube highlight clip'"
He did two stints in the first half totaling 20 minutes. He then played around 20 minutes in the second half too, for a man of his size and type of player that's long minutes.
When the likes of Laffranchi, Amor and Walmsley are back that will allow him to go back into his usual role of high intensity impact. You simply can not perform that same role with the amount of minutes he is currently playing, it isn't viable at all.
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"But that's fine. If we had Amor, laffranchi and walmsley by his side, he could afford to be a bit more of a "barnstorming" luxury - what he did do was lead the pack, always had his hand up to take it in, always made metres after impact, found the floor to start a roll a couple of occasions and helped the kids around him. He typified his performance by being involved in the first 4 tackles in the match. Wasn't flashy, but was a very good prop forward performance. Was his best performance by quite some way, and a very good performance in general. Especially when you consider being overrun by huddersfields large pack was one of my greatest concerns, he played a large part in putting us on top (that and Huddersfield were worse than we were last week!)
Took his try well too!'"
Mose has had those guys named above with him more or less all year and been crap.
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| Quote ="St pete"Mose has had those guys named above with him more or less all year and been crap.'"
He was about as fit as a chain smoking, obese grandad then though!
I have a feeling he'll have a strong finish to the season.
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| Quote ="St pete"Mose has had those guys named above with him more or less all year and been crap.'"
So it suited him to take the weight on his shoulders
I think he may of recognised some of the criticisms of last week in himself in letting the other guys do the bulk, and didn't have them around this week to do so. He was definitely one of the players unrecognisable from last week.
As has been said he was looking for the ball at every opportunity, I never noticed him behind the defensive line etc - don't wanna wax lyrical too much (stats tend to show the opposite of what I see!) as I may of been brainwashed by Eddie and Stevo (who were waxing lyrical about him) but i was very happy with his performance today. Long may it continue/ be a turning point for him personally
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| Quote ="St pete"Mose has had those guys named above with him more or less all year and been crap.'"
Yeah he has. But to be fair to the man he was excellent tonight. As mentioned he took the first four tackles and when he was on was always hunting the tackle and looking for work. He was second to Roby as man of the match tonight. I have no doubt when his stats come out that he'll top 100m with an 8 or 9 metres per carry and 15 tackles Couple of offloads as well and always attracted four men to put him down.
It's all about fitness for Mose. He's clearly far fitter than when he started the season and that allowed him to be more forceful with the work he did. Give him another couple of months without injury and I bet he'll be ripping in.
Whole team was better tonight, clearly realised it was probably Brown's job on the line tonight and they did respond. So noticable how much more up for it they all were this week, Mose and LMS's urgency from the kick off was telling. Still not a great performance however, virtually all their points were very, very sloppy and there were again too many of them scored. Roby was outstanding, Mose probably second and Flanagan or Dawson third, both had decent outings.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Yeah he has. But to be fair to the man he was excellent tonight. As mentioned he took the first four tackles and when he was on was always hunting the tackle and looking for work. He was second to Roby as man of the match tonight. I have no doubt when his stats come out that he'll top 100m with an 8 or 9 metres per carry and 15 tackles Couple of offloads as well and always attracted four men to put him down.
It's all about fitness for Mose. He's clearly far fitter than when he started the season and that allowed him to be more forceful with the work he did. Give him another couple of months without injury and I bet he'll be ripping in.
Whole team was better tonight, clearly realised it was probably Brown's job on the line tonight and they did respond. So noticable how much more up for it they all were this week, Mose and LMS's urgency from the kick off was telling. Still not a great performance however, virtually all their points were very, very sloppy and there were again too many of them scored. Roby was outstanding, Mose probably second and Flanagan or Dawson third, both had decent outings.'"
Thought Flanaghan was one of our worst tonight if I'm honest :s always seems to be tackled dead and kill any momentum - potentially had a fair shift defensively, but he was bumped off by Crabtree a couple of times.
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"So it suited him to take the weight on his shoulders
I think he may of recognised some of the criticisms of last week in himself in letting the other guys do the bulk, and didn't have them around this week to do so. He was definitely one of the players unrecognisable from last week.
As has been said he was looking for the ball at every opportunity, I never noticed him behind the defensive line etc - don't wanna wax lyrical too much (stats tend to show the opposite of what I see!) as I may of been brainwashed by Eddie and Stevo (who were waxing lyrical about him) but i was very happy with his performance today. Long may it continue/ be a turning point for him personally'"
He showed glimpses at the cas game when he came back on for his last spell.
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| It's a shame Dawson doesn't have an extra yard of pace otherwise he could be very good.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"It's a shame Dawson doesn't have an extra yard of pace otherwise he could be very good.'"
He's a strange shape I think. Seems to have little body and long long legs. I don't mind Dawson as a squad player tbh. He does decent job but is a little suspect in defence at times.
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| Quote ="St pete"He's a strange shape I think. Seems to have little body and long long legs. I don't mind Dawson as a squad player tbh. He does decent job but is a little suspect in defence at times.'"
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| I ended up going tonight after saying i woul'dnt and made up we won but once again Turner, LMS and Walker have done nothing! People criticize Masoe. You will never see Walker or LMS ever have a better game than Mose did tonight.
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| Quote ="St pete"I find a few on here think he's played well if he does few decent runs and does 20 odd 2nd / 3rd man tackles. I've been ever disappointed with him if I'm honest. He doesn't run his weight. I question his heart and if he wants to be on the field at times.'"
You wouldn't question any of that after tonight mate. He was superb.
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| Quote ="LFC Saint"I ended up going tonight after saying i woul'dnt and made up we won but once again Turner, LMS and Walker have done nothing! People criticize Masoe. You will never see Walker or LMS ever have a better game than Mose did tonight.'"
Turner did everything asked of him - granted not much, but hardly a performance I'd call him out for - he kept wardle quiet which we haven't done for a while. Lms was good without being great, still room for improvement. Walker had a poor first stint, and I was prepared to start writing him off, but was poking his nose through in his second stint, and generally did alright.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"You wouldn't question any of that after tonight mate. He was superb.
That prat dubairl is talking nonsense as per usual.'"
Sorry I missed it then
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"You wouldn't question any of that after tonight mate. He was superb.
That prat dubairl is talking nonsense as per usual.'"
He was superb tonight. Worked hard attracted 3/4 defenders if not more everytime and made good yards. Came up with some good offloads and attracted quite a few penalties.
Exactly what we ask of him and his try plus MOM was fully deserved.
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| Masoe had a very good game for us. Even more impressive that it was against a big pack. He dominated that early exchange - alongside soliola who I thought was very good and looked back to his best early on.
Hopefully he's turned a corner now as he hasn't played well at all previously.
I though Walsh showed his class tonight. He really is a special player and controlled the game. Roby had a big game too and was very influential. Not surprising when the forwards play well, our classy players do too...funny that.
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| Quote ="Albion"Masoe had a very good game for us. Even more impressive that it was against a big pack. He dominated that early exchange - alongside soliola who I thought was very good and looked back to his best early on.
Hopefully he's turned a corner now as he hasn't played well at all previously.
I though Walsh showed his class tonight. He really is a special player and controlled the game. Roby had a big game too and was very influential. Not surprising when the forwards play well, our classy players do too...funny that.'"
I said something similar tonight too mate about Roby and him being allowed to do what he does best when other people do their jobs properly. He was very very good tonight.
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| We where rubbish in the 2nd half tonight but an overall improvement. I think we won the second half 3-0. Hardly convincing.
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| I mainly read and don't post on here. A few where saying Mosey is here on holiday etc etc. I happened to drive past my old school feild, Cowley feild on Tuesday approx 4pm. All alone, and I mean alone, was Mossy just jogging about. I believe he is still overweight and he is putting in the hours to shift the extra timber.
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| Mose was good, very good indeed tonight.
I'm not a hater and I think he's had to play long minutes one to get his fitness up but 2 because of the lack of Amor.
So I've been quite happy with him doing the grunt work. Tonight I think there was a touch of aggression and fierceness about him. And it made a difference. He was hard in running and hard in the tackle too, even covering for others who let plays go on occasion. Was a clear MOM, as he took on that Huddersfield pack and won.
It was certainly a better attitude this week, but we fluffed the defensive effort on occasion, simply by switching off.
I like Dawson, I know some will not buy into him as he is not a big name and not a St Helens boy, but he makes breaks every match. He makes chances and you need that. Wheeler was also decent too.
Walker I'm not so sure about, was impressed with him last year, but I don't think he will shift one of the props who are injured. Greenwood looked better coming on from the bench rather than doing a full 80.
Lance was good, he has been most of this year.
Walsh was good too, although he did seem to get a bit distracted trying to get one over on Brough with the short kick off. A case of I can do it too, but he didn't.
Wellens looked alot more comfortable at FB. It's a bit of a quandry what to do with him. He's a FB not a pack player, we need him but just have no where to play him.
Roby was good too, the rest where so so for me. Neither amazing nor poor. We just did not have that killer punch at 18 - 0 and kept giving hope to huddersfield through our sloppy play, but it did start to bucket it down after 18 - 0.
Thought Ferres had a few cheap shots tonight, did not expect that from him.
Brough lost it tonight, but second half showed some nice touches. Not sure what's happened to the big pack at Huddersfield was expecting them to come rough us up. But after 10 minutes of Mose tearing into them, they seemed to lose all their fight.
A good win and much better attitude. Gives us some breathing space to get some bodies back, but we need to see them all wanting to be a bit more aggressive. Not stupidly so, but with that little bit of extra effort that you are at least going to try and push through.
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| Quote ="St. Rughead"No injuries. Mose man of the match, by far his best performance for us. You could tell by our start they'd had a rollocking during the week. Turner and LMS pretty anonymous.'"
Don't talk rubbish I was there and have just re watched the game back as well. Both lads played very well as did the whole team. They had fire in their belly tonight all the players . We'll done lads
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"He made close to ten yards on every single carry he made, including plenty coming out of his own 20 with 3/4 pressuring him.
I really don't understand what people want Mose to do? I think he'll need to kill somebody in a tackle before he gets any praise.'" totally agree with you Mose did great tonight best game I have seen him play so far. The whole team played very well. Remember some people on here never praise anyone, all they do is slag them off . You will have to get used to that
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