McIllorum is feral.

Because McIlorum has less intelligence than a damp sponge.

Cant see much other than what has been already stated.

It's a shame really, i actually think McIlorum has a lot of talent so why spoil it by being a malicious little freak? No room for biting in this game. Graham rightly served a lengthy ban and so should Micky Mac.

He seems a genuinely alright bloke in person when i met him once. Why he behaves like such a reckless idiot on the pitch i have no idea as he could be ahead of Roby in the England squad if he concentrated more on his game rather than being a tw*t

wello bitten? the only thing bitten was st helens,bitten chewed up and spit out by the mighty wigan warriors end of.

Just watched the video and there is no clear indication of biting. However there is a very clear evidence of a forearm in MM's face. I suppose that is ok.

Does seem very similar to the Graham/Slater incidence, send it over for the NRL to judge don't think the RFL have any experience of this type of thing.

Let's be honest, if we talking foul play, let's look at a high shot that took a 19 year old kid out the game and out of Mondays game.

If you are referring to SOL's tackle I don't see how you can call that a high shot. His arm was down. It was certainly a tough tackle and very unfortunate to result in an injury. A high shot: no. RL is a tough sport. I remember SOL getting his leg broken badly in a Good Friday game several years ago.

Lets say Shirley made most of the opportunity, if it ends up hitting the head which in this case it did perhaps you can redefine what A high shot is.
It very much looked like shoulder to the head, the opportunity to use his arm was not available.

Dear, oh dear, rugby getting too rough for your team then? Wellen's leads with the forearm then complains when his arm makes contact with an opponents mouth.

Take care at Widnes .. its a plastic pitch ... better pack a few more sticking plasters in case anyone grazes their knees!

seriously you think those incidents are even comparable? i missed the point where slater ran in to graham with his ear, Still don't think graham bitt slater by the way.

Wouldn't surprise me if Micky did bite him but he made no clear movement to bite him, considering wellens had just forearmed in the face.

fairly sure he came back on not so long after that. can hardly call it a high shot considering the player was a foot from the ground, but if o'loughlin contains those kinds of reactions no wonder why he is the best player in super league. still not sure why he would intentionally take out a rookie and not someone like walmsley.

No he didn't come back on and ok, let's call it a head shot.

If he hadn't of slipped though he wouldnt have been hit in the head. Still (and i dont agree with it but) shoulder charges are now banned

Re Wello. He shouldn't have given MM the forearm to the face, but MM shouldn't have bit him either.

We're not playing wendyball, if you give someone a forearm you can't whinge if he retaliates

You certainly can complain if you are bitten.

If contact Is made to the head, it doesn't matter how it happened but it's foul play. If let's say Sia is going to put a big shot on but the player side steps and Sia takes his head off because he stepped, does that make it ok ?

IF McIlorum has definitely and deliberately bitten Wellens then he deserves a long ban.

Agreed but IMO it's not conclusive.


Do you think he did it ?

Too right I believe, after all its Easter........



Plus anyone who can live in wigan and not eat when food is put in front of them,
meat in a wrap must be very tempting.

I honestly don't know, I've watched again a couple of times and from those camera shots you can't tell. Wellens certainly goes at McIlorum with the forearm but whether there was a bite I'm not sure. I would think the RFL will and should look at it. Maybe there are different camera angles which will show what happened conclusively, let's wait and see.

Typically example was last season with Meli on the Hull K R winger, Meli clothes lined him after being side stepped, not sure how many matches he got.
Its the responsibility of the defender to make sure there is no contact with the head, it doesn't matter if the attacker ducks down, slips, jumps, side steps etc its all down to first point of contact. As Shirley was put on report I think they will look at the intention and opportunity to avoid the head area, Bowen set the standard early on in the season towards what Wigoon can get away with..............in this instance, no intent warning about tackling technique.

I think you missed my cryptic jest. Don't think anything will come of it to be honest. Seem to remember 5 mins before the incident MM trapped Wello's arm as he was trying to play the ball and it boiled up from there, hence the arm in the face.

Totally agree with your point " if contact is made to the head it doesn't matter how it happened it's foul play".

Be interesting to see how many matches Wellens gets for leading maliciously with the elbow/forearm into an opponents face .... a cheap shot that could easily have broken MM's jaw.

Such a shame it wasn't leading with the forearm then for your argument isn't it really. In fact wellens forearm was facing his own posts - hardly "leading maliciously"

That's fair enough as long as SOL and MM get their bans then it's fair.

I'd say leaning with the forearm will have slightly less ban than taking someone's head off and someone actually having a bite on a arm.


Wello - £300 fine

MM - 8 match ban

SOL - 3 match ban.