I think we need 3 props really, it allows us to move Laffranchi to the second row. We still haven't had any rumours of players coming in from the NRL, so there could still be signings from there. If these rumours are true, things are looking up for next season.

I reckon we'd be alright with that lot. That would give us the following props:
Paea
LMS
Amor
Walmsley
Clough

Laffranchi could then be rotated as a 2nd row and move into the front row whenever the need arose.

Of course this is all based on pure speculation, but I reckon two rough and tough props and we'd be fine.

But we have a squad full of dead wood, fortunatly for us most their contracts are up end of this season so we need to get shut and use the money to make those shrewd signings. We dont need to and couldnt replace each player as we have the likes of Walker and Greenwood coming though but we need to sprinkle some quality and size in the squad

We're really not. In past years, we've bemoaned the lack of quality in the outside backs as the reason we've been trophyless in years. Now it's arguably reversing. Our 1-5 could very half decent next season. But we have no 6-7 and the only quality we will have in the pack are Walmsley, Roby and Sia.

We need at least 4 signings IMO to catch up to the other sides, if they all remain still and don't improve, which is unlikely. Two halfbacks is a must, an absolute must. Then TWO props is another must. We're losing Puletua and presumably Perry, so they need to be replaced. Laffranchi is an absolute waste of time and so is Hohaia. It's unlikely we'll be winning a trophy before they both leave.

The problem that Saints & most other Super League Clubs have got in recruiting top class players is that Salford will outbid anyone of you.

I wonder if Brown said we would get a lot worse before we get better when he took the job? Because we are worse now than under Rush or Potter.

But how much of that is due to the injuries we've had? You simply can't judge is this season yet.

Perhaps, but we didn't look that good before Lomax and Roby etc etc got injured.

Last year even after the poor start which got Royce sacked we only lost 8 all season; we are not even half way and we have lost 6 already.
If we carry on at the same success rate we will end up with 29 points and 7th i.e. where we are now - and I can't see any light at the end of the tunnel for the next month at least.

Me either , I just cant see us picking up points at the moment

Dear Gods.... Here we go yet again... Every bloody season.... When will they learn?

Shall I remind you all of this thread once we've comfortably finished in the top 4 at the end of the season again (as I have to seemingly every year) once the injuries have eased and the games start to actually matter?

You're assuming the injury situation will ease. It didn't in 2011 and it may not this season either. I hope it does, obviously, but it can't be assumed.

You and your rampant positivity has no place on my forum. Get out.

The problem this year is we can hardly get excited about half the players we have coming back ..


I'm going to steal from an old thread here which still amuses me but I cant find but waiting for the likes of Perry and Meli to come back and save the day is like blowing the Horn at helms deep expecting an army and then seeing a hurd of guinea pigs coming over the hill..... a little bit of a let down

Don't think so.

Players will move there only because they would be paid handsomely. We shouldn't be concerned about the players that choose to move there, as it would purely be for money.

Sorry



Errrr.... We suck, we'll never get any better, we'll never win anything and it's the end of the world. We won't win another game and we'll finish bottom this season. Our players are all complete garbage and the board doesn't know what it's doing in signing any of them in the first place. Sack them all and replace them with Blackbrook and Thatto Heath amateurs who'll show some pride in the shirt instead. We need to sign a dozen worldclass speedy wingers as well.

Am I allowed back in now?

You know, the really funny thing is that I'm now seemingly regarded as the rampant grumpy old arch-negativist on the MK forum I also contribute to...

This point is quite an obvious one.

Players will get money wherever they go if they are good enough. Then that brings in other factors. If you think money is the answer in the short term it isn't, simply because there is a cap. You will have to pay over the odds for one player and that then impacts upon the rest of the squad.

The likelihood of you bringing in more than 2 decent players is small, unless you fiddle the cap. You will struggle to bring in 5/6 average players because you'll be overpaying for them.

Salford are so far under the cap I think you can expect more than 2 and lots of dead wood cleared out in the off season. I can't personally see the cap staying as it is at the moment as its not working, as you state I think there are other ways of paying a player other than through his wages which obviously play a big part in the attraction.

I suppose we will just wait and see, but I don't think the likes of: Wigan, Warrington, Saints and Hull are particularly worried about Salford atm.

Looks like paea is going to leeds

Of course he is. They actively seek to improve their team season after season.

We won't panic buy ,are always interested in quality players and have plenty of irons in the fire.


Haven't got time for new blood.

The focus currently remains on renewing the contracts of LMS , LeFlop , Don Wellens and Flanagan.

And that right there is the problem. It seems we are no longer one of the clubs of choice for players who have options. If we offered the same money as Wigan, Leeds or Warrington, it seems we are the one missing out. That forces our hand to offer bigger contracts to get the player we want/need, which impacts on our cap. Ten years ago, a player like Paea would have dragged our hands off. Sad times.