If there was truth in it, he is a player that we need to keep or at least replace like for like. He was was the only member of the pack who gave us respectable go-forward last week. I'd be gutted to lose him, he can make or break a game.

We can only carry so many Jon Wilkin types in the back row (his go forward was, quite frankly, embarrassing for a forward probably on 'international wages', but that is another matter) and we have a relatively undersized front row as it is without losing a unit.

But he did stuff all in defence. He stood around and let others attempt the tough work and only completed 16 tackles himself. And he does that week on week, yet still gets picked, even when he makes fewer yards than he did last weekend. He's stealing a living at present and has been for some time.

I assume you're trolling as usual. But if you actually do think that dropping a good yardage maker and game-breaking forward in exchange for a hard-working drone because he does 'stuff all in defence', then you are out of your mind.

By that logic, the likes of Tony Williams and Sam Kasiano are dung and the Australian and NZ international coaches are picking them for giggles.

Oh dear.




Erm, I don't remember saying that. However, what I would like is a hard working forward, not one who picks and chooses when to be bothered working but instead does it for his team mates instead of leaving his team mates to do it for him. He is a lazy git and I won't be sad to see him go.

I know. I love Rogues' wind ups and always take them with a laugh and a pinch of salt, but I have a feeling he has had me hook line and sinker with this account and it has been an alter ego master plan all along

oh lets call this your first (and last) warning of the season, do you really want a holiday before (and including) good friday?

Lent starts on Wednesday and I have my be nice to Saints fans in that time.



But the point I was trying to make (I do accept it was a little sarcastically), that I don't think Saints should be looking at replacing one overseas aged player with another, especially one with such a bad injury record.

i very much doubt they are, we dont generally sign over 30's, with the exception of Manu there has been very few 30+ signings ,yes a few will turn 30 in their contract but they weren't when we signed them.

If 30 year old adds what we need, I don't see the issue.

1,2 or maybe 3, but not 7 or 8. It's just delaying the inevitable. It will catch up eventually.

I think Leeds, Wire and yourselves have some careful recruitment to do in the next two or three years.

In our (Wigans) case I think we probably need one or two more experienced players. Someone posted a stat that said we had 15 players under the age of 26 in Fridays squad.

I've been a big fan of TP...Had his name n number on my last 2 shirts but got 2 admit he didn't look interested today or last week IMO....maybe his time has come to move on.

I heard this rumour a couple of weeks ago from one of the backroom staff.
Supposedly Nathan Brown and TP have had a bust up after TP had to go back to NZ a couple of times in the pre season to attend funerals of family members and missed a fair amount of traning.

NB not happy at the amount of time TP spent over there.

Seems to be a few issues with NB and some of the backroom guys as well but I've only heard one side of the story.
Also told that NB does not like or rate Nathan Ashe in the slightest so unlikely he will ever figure in his plans.

Puletua attended the funeral of his father. Not just any old family memnber. Dirty rumour.

Ah here we go,early season form not good,a new coach and its rumour time. Players will allways be given compasionate leave for family bereavements and as rumours go its really comptemtable.

Very true.

However age and quality don't necessarily go hand in hand and, whilst you are always very keen to bag other Clubs with a different age demographic than Wigan's, many are less sure about the quality of Wigan's youth than you are.

You have to hope that they are good enough.

ive wondered about this kid, he was tipped as a superstar, butmade very few appearances and he's not a kid anymore. IMO if he was going to make it he'd have been featuring more by now or some other team would have picked him up

Not really a suprise if TP goes home. My my son is in the same class as TP, s son. He said the class had been making cards for him as he was going back to live in his own country and was suppose to be leaving last Friday.

I think he'll see the season out at least. He'd really drop us in it, if he left now. We'd have a job getting a quality replacement in half way through the season.

He always looked a very promising player indeed on his few appearances before his development was "Rush"ed last season. It'll be disappointing if his promise comes to nothing but that's always the risk with any youngster.

What did the card say

"All the best from Class 3G we will miss you , but why does your Dad only look interested when Saints are 20-0 up against Salford these days?"

If he's gona make it up he could at least spell TP's name correctly!

And Since when was Tyrone McCarthy Australian? My Wife went School with him in PADGATE, Warrington!

Bad form from the Sun as usual... Wouldn't believe anything they write!

Can someone find out if Puletia is TP's alias when things are going bad on the pitch?

Puletua's kids have apparently said in school they are going home next year?

Well that kills that rumour.