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| Quote ="SaintsFan"I watched it live at Saints and there was no evidence shown then that I saw of Jammer biting anyone. Until I hear the verdict then I am keeping an open mind. Should he be proven to have bitten Slater then he deserves whatever punishment he gets and he goes down in my opinion.'"
I watched it live to and there was evidence to sugest a bite,i saw it,the comentators saw it,every other person around saw it,how did you not ? Last person to get suspended for a bite got 8 weeks,i would expect similar for Jammer.
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| Quote ="brook40"I watched it live to and there was evidence to sugest a bite,i saw it,the comentators saw it,every other person around saw it,how did you not ? Last person to get suspended for a bite got 8 weeks,i would expect similar for Jammer.'"
I didn't see it covered live and that was that. I saw the handbags but I didn't see any evidence of a bite. Maybe I blinked at that point or looked at my lovely bacon buttie!
But one thing I don't do is presume guilt. I didn't see it and I know that camera angles can deceive and even if they don't, something may have been accidental rather than deliberate. I don't know because I didn't see it.
So. As I said. If or until he is proven guilty of the offence I will keep an open mind.
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| Absolutely terrible, he should be kicked out of the NRL and return to Saints immediately.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"I didn't see it covered live and that was that. I saw the handbags but I didn't see any evidence of a bite. Maybe I blinked at that point or looked at my lovely bacon buttie!
But one thing I don't do is presume guilt. I didn't see it and I know that camera angles can deceive and even if they don't, something may have been accidental rather than deliberate. I don't know because I didn't see it.
So. As I said. If or until he is proven guilty of the offence I will keep an open mind.'"
Make your mind up,one post says you did see it live then here you say you didnt,must of been a big blink,they showed it 2 or 3 times and some in slo mo,you said in an earlier post there is no proof,well there is,it doesnt look good.Fair enough keeping an open mind if you didnt see it,but its out there on youtube and other places,go and watch it then tell me there is no evidence.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"I didn't see it covered live and that was that. I saw the handbags but I didn't see any evidence of a bite. Maybe I blinked at that point or looked at my lovely bacon buttie!
But one thing I don't do is presume guilt. I didn't see it and I know that camera angles can deceive and even if they don't, something may have been accidental rather than deliberate. I don't know because I didn't see it.
So. As I said. If or until he is proven guilty of the offence I will keep an open mind.'"
Good job it wasn't Gareth Hock that did it hey?
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| Looks ominous. Saw it live and that was the first thing that went through my mind....then I saw replays and thought exactly the same. The only thing you can say really is it was a brain explosion in a massively pressured situation with tempers already escalating. It's certainly out if character for him and any comparisons to Hock and Bailey (who have a clear track record) is exaggerated.
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| Quote ="The Chief"Looks ominous. Saw it live and that was the first thing that went through my mind....then I saw replays and thought exactly the same. The only thing you can say really is it was a brain explosion in a massively pressured situation with tempers already escalating. It's certainly out if character for him and any comparisons to Hock and Bailey (who have a clear track record) is exaggerated.'"
What's Bailey's clear track record for biting or anything as grubby and untoward as that exactly? Could you supply evidence for your claim?
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| Quote ="The Chief"Looks ominous. Saw it live and that was the first thing that went through my mind....then I saw replays and thought exactly the same. The only thing you can say really is it was a brain explosion in a massively pressured situation with tempers already escalating. It's certainly out if character for him and any comparisons to Hock and Bailey (who have a clear track record) is exaggerated.'"
Bailey's never done anything that reprehensible on a rugby field.
Graham's in a for a lengthy, lengthy ban, a tarnished reputation, and a 6th losers medal to boot
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| Quote ="William Eve"What's Bailey's clear track record for biting or anything as grubby and untoward as that exactly? Could you supply evidence for your claim?'"
Didn't say he had a track record for biting - my reference about his track record relate to his reputation as a cheap shot merchant. Talk to any SL player outside of Leeds and ask them who is the most despised pro RL player, and you will get your answer. Graham was out of order if he is found guilty, which looks likely, but don't come on here painting bailey out to be some kind on model professional.
Two words, prison sentence. That wasn't grubby or untoward was it?
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| Deserves everything he gets to be honest. Well out of order doing that
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| Quote ="The Chief"Looks ominous. Saw it live and that was the first thing that went through my mind....then I saw replays and thought exactly the same. The only thing you can say really is it was a brain explosion in a massively pressured situation with tempers already escalating. It's certainly out if character for him and any comparisons to Hock and Bailey (who have a clear track record) is exaggerated.'"
Same here, I seen it live and them the replay more or less proved it. The only way graham will get away with this, if the video footage doesn't show his teeth on the ear.
If its found to he true, they should throw the book at him, no room for that in rugby league.
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| orry, I've just watched the video through the link and it looks like he has his face into slaters neck. slater must have an ear coming out of his neck not his head?
Can't see either way if its definately a bite.
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| Silly, silly boy. Will be absolutely hammered by the disciplinary and has put a big stain on his copybook that will be difficult to overcome.
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| Quote ="Mugwump"Silly, silly boy. Will be absolutely hammered by the disciplinary and has put a big stain on his copybook that will be difficult to overcome.'"
Assuming he actually did it of course.
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| Quote ="saint at wire"Sorry, I've just watched the video through the link and it looks like he has his face into slaters neck. '"
Perhaps he's a vampire.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Perhaps he's a vampire.'"
He's certainly white enough to be one.
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| I watched and the ref said he could see the bite mark on skaters ear afterwards
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| No room for biting in rugby. I love jammer but they should punish him for that.
However, unless they have clear footage then they can't do anything
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Assuming he actually did it of course.'"
Well, I suppose Slater's ear could have jammed itself into Graham's mouth and someone else pushed his jaws together.
That or remote alien mind control experiments...
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| Quote ="The Chief"Didn't say he had a track record for biting - my reference about his track record relate to his reputation as a cheap shot merchant. Talk to any SL player outside of Leeds and ask them who is the most despised pro RL player, and you will get your answer. Graham was out of order if he is found guilty, which looks likely, but don't come on here painting bailey out to be some kind on model professional.
Two words, prison sentence. That wasn't grubby or untoward was it?'"
Got any straw left for construction purposes? I haven't painted Bailey as a model professional at all. In fact I don't particularly rate him as highly as many Leeds fans do. Doesn't put in the hits or make sufficient meters for my liking. Very good at the niggly stuff and getting under opposition players skin though. Just ask the incessantly whining John Wilkin and he'll confirm that.
I simply asked you to provide evidence of Bailey's track record on untoward behaviour such as biting. You chose to make an example of him as having a clear track record of having indulged in similar - if not worse - and then by association, placed him on a par with Hock (gouging). Now I'm quite sure that Bailey has no clear track record of ever biting or gouging any other player on the pitch - unlike Hock - or as will become apparent fairly soon in the case of Graham.
Your belated two word reference to Bailey's teenage spell in a youth offenders unit for street brawling outside a nightclub alongside three other players dishing it out among themselves is further evidence of your desperate argument.
Your presentation at Lancashire CCC prior to last years GF was more impressive than what you've presented here. Hope you enjoyed your free ticket and goody bag
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| Quote ="Mugwump"Well, I suppose Slater's ear could have jammed itself into Graham's mouth and someone else pushed his jaws together.
That or remote alien mind control experiments...'"
I'd love to know what caused it. The clip they found had no context to it at all. Why were they in that position in the first place? What had Slater done to cause the rage he obviously had?
The injury isn't evidence, in fact it looks like a nail injury as they've got super close up shots and the wound is semi circular at first, then gets worse as the bruising comes through.
I, like you, think Graham did probably bite him, but I wouldn't put it past Slater, Melbourne or Bellamy for that injury to be self inflicted. It's incredibly easy to make your own ear bleed, pinch it and twist. Sounds far fetched? I wouldn't put it past them, they were responsible for the chicken wing, the ninja tackle, snapping the pole (Trying to injure the ball carrier by needlessly attacking the knee joints, something Maguire brought to Wigan with him) and running two sets of books to cheat the cap. They make Wigan seem positively good sports. The whole 'fight' seemed manufactured to me, they were definitely looking to get a Bulldog sent off.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"I'd love to know what caused it. The clip they found had no context to it at all. Why were they in that position in the first place? What had Slater done to cause the rage he obviously had?
The injury isn't evidence, in fact it looks like a nail injury as they've got super close up shots and the wound is semi circular at first, then gets worse as the bruising comes through.
I, like you, think Graham did probably bite him, but I wouldn't put it past Slater, Melbourne or Bellamy for that injury to be self inflicted. It's incredibly easy to make your own ear bleed, pinch it and twist. Sounds far fetched? I wouldn't put it past them, they were responsible for the chicken wing, the ninja tackle, snapping the pole (Trying to injure the ball carrier by needlessly attacking the knee joints, something Maguire brought to Wigan with him) and running two sets of books to cheat the cap. They make Wigan seem positively good sports. The whole 'fight' seemed manufactured to me, they were definitely looking to get a Bulldog sent off.'"
What has any of this got to do with Wigan, Bellamy or maquire?
And how Melbourne manufactured the fight is as fantastically brilliant as you being the only person to see slater injure his own ear from the other side of the planet when none of the 80'000 people or the cameras at the ground did
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| Quote ="Mugwump"Well, I suppose Slater's ear could have jammed itself into Graham's mouth and someone else pushed his jaws together.
That or remote alien mind control experiments...'"
I've now seen the footage and I don't see Slater's ear going in to Jammer's mouth. I see Jammer's mouth in the vicinity of Slater's ear though but that's as much as the footage actually shows.
Given the gravity of the charge, there should be nothing less than absolute proof that he actually bit Slater's ear rather than assuming he did just because his mouth was in the vicinity. He could have been giving Slater a tirade of abuse in scouse for all we know.
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