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| Quote ="No1 Saint"Pathetic. Shoulder contact and his arm came up after , disgusting decision given by Ian Smith the worlds worst ref'"
Don't think it was Smith - it was one of the famous chuckle brothers again. The two linesmen seem to work together and are absolutely garbage.
Some very strange decisions in the match coming fron a normally level headed Thaler - on this and many other occasions these two linesmen /ass ref guys come on to the pitch with their selective recall versions of reality.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Could well have been. Perhaps I should be be a ref.'"
Adoption by Rogues would be a better idea
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| Im sorry, but the aussies must be laughing their s off at us. The ref sends TP off for a feckin shoulder charge...... Our game must be a laughing stock, its bloody Rugby League, not feckin Tiddlywinks ffs!!!! No wonder our beloved sport is going down the bloody toilet with decisions like that. And them 3 clowns on Sky Sports, half the time, you dont know what the hell their on about, they go off on one, why the hell start talking about bloody Rangi Chase in the middle of a game, who the hell cares, for one, and for two, shouldnt that be a discussion for that stupid boring show, boots n clarkey!!!! FFS GOD HELP OUR GAME
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| A terrible sending off decision, and I think he will get no further punishment.
Luckily Saints didn't lose as a result.
It's a real potential game changer when someone gets sent off compared with the usual 'on report'. Whoever made this decision is an @rsehole.
Thaler just gets sillier.
That try by the Catalans when the scorer hit the post in the action of scoring a try demonstrated it.
Thaler was in the best position in the park but still passed it upstairs.
Sign of the times I suppose, better to be safe than sorry.
Yet he disallowed instantly another Catalans attempt when the bloke dropped it in the action of trying to score.
Both were obvious, but only one went upstairs.
But neither should have.
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| Was a penalty, nothing more. Thought your defence tonight was excellent. You got the better of some dodgy calls, but to defend as many 'danger' sets as you did deserves credit.
Seems you could be coming good at playoff time once again.
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| Quote ="Stand-Offish"A terrible sending off decision, and I think he will get no further punishment.
Luckily Saints didn't lose as a result.
It's a real potential game changer when someone gets sent off compared with the usual 'on report'. Whoever made this decision is an @rsehole.
Thaler just gets sillier.
That try by the Catalans when the scorer hit the post in the action of scoring a try demonstrated it.
Thaler was in the best position in the park but still passed it upstairs.
Sign of the times I suppose, better to be safe than sorry.
Yet he disallowed instantly another Catalans attempt when the bloke dropped it in the action of trying to score.
Both were obvious, but only one went upstairs.
But neither should have.'"
As a Wigan fan, his constant using of the screen was really annoying me after last week (we didn't deserve to win before anyone thinks I'm blaming him) especially the Raguin try when he went for a knock on in the build up.
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| Quote ="Conroy"Was a penalty, nothing more. Thought your defence tonight was excellent. You got the better of some dodgy calls, but to defend as many 'danger' sets as you did deserves credit.
Seems you could be coming good at playoff time once again.'"
You are right, most sides would have crumbled under that pressure.
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| Shocking decision. The game's gone soft.
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| shoulder made contact with the head its a red card, its the defender who has to control a tackle not the attacker. i am guessing the people who are saying that its allowed in the nrl haven't watched many games this season? Frankie pritchard got a 3 game ban for the exact same tackle. Sam Burgess last weekend mopped up Luke O'Donnell younger brother and they kept checking with the big screen to make sure hes shoulder didn't make contact with the head. alot of times this season players have decided to stay down when they have been tackled high so the refs have to go to the big screen.
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| Quote ="dubairl"shoulder made contact with the head its a red card, its the defender who has to control a tackle not the attacker. i am guessing the people who are saying that its allowed in the nrl haven't watched many games this season? Frankie pritchard got a 3 game ban for the exact same tackle. Sam Burgess last weekend mopped up Luke O'Donnell younger brother and they kept checking with the big screen to make sure hes shoulder didn't make contact with the head. alot of times this season players have decided to stay down when they have been tackled high so the refs have to go to the big screen.'"
Except that it didnt. He hit the chest first. It was laughable how the idiots in the SKY commentary box mentioned about elbows - the elbow is bound to come up when you go in with the shoulder. Henderson went into that tackle like a pussy and got a pearler of a hit which was a great tackle. Seem to remeber Frodsham being knocked cold by Burgess and the SKY team creamed their knickers.
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| Quote ="dubairl"shoulder made contact with the head its a red card, its the defender who has to control a tackle not the attacker. i am guessing the people who are saying that its allowed in the nrl haven't watched many games this season? Frankie pritchard got a 3 game ban for the exact same tackle. Sam Burgess last weekend mopped up Luke O'Donnell younger brother and they kept checking with the big screen to make sure hes shoulder didn't make contact with the head. alot of times this season players have decided to stay down when they have been tackled high so the refs have to go to the big screen.'"
What a steaming pile of horse. If as an attacker all you need to do to get a penalty is run low at the biggest guy then fall on the floor this game is finished. If TP had took his head off I agree it's a red but he ran into it ! utter
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| dreadfull decision his elbow only came up after the collision , no case to answer
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"Quote ="dubairl"shoulder made contact with the head its a red card, its the defender who has to control a tackle not the attacker. i am guessing the people who are saying that its allowed in the nrl haven't watched many games this season? Frankie pritchard got a 3 game ban for the exact same tackle. Sam Burgess last weekend mopped up Luke O'Donnell younger brother and they kept checking with the big screen to make sure hes shoulder didn't make contact with the head. alot of times this season players have decided to stay down when they have been tackled high so the refs have to go to the big screen.'"
What a steaming pile of horse. If as an attacker all you need to do to get a penalty is run low at the biggest guy then fall on the floor this game is finished. If TP had took his head off I agree it's a red but he ran into it ! utter'"
if tp bent hes knees a little it would of been a legal shoulder charge, he didnt get low enough, rob burrow gets given penaltys all the time and he ducks with hes head so whats the difference? also when players are slipping over the defender still cant make contact with the head. end of the day it is the tacklers responsibility to make sure its a legal tackle and what tp did isn't legal.
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| Quote ="dubairl"if tp bent hes knees a little it would of been a legal shoulder charge, he didnt get low enough, rob burrow gets given penaltys all the time and he ducks with hes head so whats the difference? also when players are slipping over the defender still cant make contact with the head. end of the day it is the tacklers responsibility to make sure its a legal tackle and what tp did isn't legal.'"
If he had bent his knees it would have looked even worse as it would have looked like he was making a deliberate charge for the head.
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| The Catalan player ended up with a bust nose, that suggests to me that there was contact with his head. I didn't think that he intended to attack the head though.
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"The Catalan player ended up with a bust nose, that suggests to me that there was contact with his head. I didn't think that he intended to attack the head though.'"
running with your head down does that ...
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"Quote ="Billinge_Lump"The Catalan player ended up with a bust nose, that suggests to me that there was contact with his head. I didn't think that he intended to attack the head though.'"
running with your head down does that ...'"
So you agree that there was contact with his head?
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"Ryan Bailey on Fa'asavalu is another?'"
Nearly identical but most posters on here had a very different opinion
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| I felt for TP. Not a dirty player at all, and that shot should have been the match winning play. There was contact with the head, but there has to be some responsibility on the ball carrier for the way impact occurs. If you run into a tackle and duck your head there's always a good chance you'll get hit on it. That used to be considered in referees' interpretations of high tackles, but not any more, it seems.
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"Nearly identical but most posters on here had a very different opinion'"
Exept that Bailey jumped,TP didnt he stood his ground.
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| Quote ="Don Brennan"Exept that Bailey jumped,TP didnt he stood his ground.'"
Nice story but it's not true
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"So you agree that there was contact with his head?'"
There must have been he basically put his head down and ran into TP , whats he supposed to do move out of the way????
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| Quote ="saint at wire"Don't think it was Smith - it was one of the famous chuckle brothers again. The two linesmen seem to work together and are absolutely garbage.
Some very strange decisions in the match coming fron a normally level headed Thaler - on this and many other occasions these two linesmen /ass ref guys come on to the pitch with their selective recall versions of reality.
I can only think that Sky / The RFL are getting them for free, expenses only, on some sort of extended day trip from the local home as part of the RFL/Sky's contribution to their care.'"
I watched it again this morning and the chuckle brother isnt saying anything,his mouth doesnt move at all,but Thaler is having a conversation with someone so it must of been Smith.
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| He made contact with the head, so it was a penalty. Agree though, if those become sending off's, like with Sam Moa then the days of big hits will be over, which would be such a shame.
Ian Smith definetly made it up to you with a naff call against Catalans for the no try though.
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| Quote ="Bal"He made contact with the head, so it was a penalty. Agree though, if those become sending off's, like with Sam Moa then the days of big hits will be over, which would be such a shame.
Ian Smith definetly made it up to you with a naff call against Catalans for the no try though.
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Disagree , technically he interfered with Makinson which makes it a correct call . If he was going for that ball he needs to get his eyes tested.
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