There appears to be a pattern. Foster was binned to the u20s and so Lomax took over. Lomax was fantastic - at first. Then he started missing a few. So Makinson took over. Makinson was fantastic - at first. Then he started missing a few. So now Gaskell has taken over. Gaskell has been fantastic - got three out of three against whoever, and kicked them all on Sunday including that last one. Presumably if he starts to miss a few the cycle will begin again, unless we have a totally unknown kicker lurking there somewhere.

Isn't Percival a goal kicker too, or am I making things up?

Yes I do understand that the ref cannot overrule if both touchjudges rule no goal.
The point I was making was that the touchjudge had no reason for being unsighted. He should have positioned himself too see the flight of the ball. It's a big part of his job.

It was unclear from the video whether it was a goal or not, but according to the majority on here it was, and according to one of todays Rugby newspapers (League Express?) Paul Wellens has said on his "twitter" that he believed that it was a goal.

Paul Wellens agreed too, and fair play to Saints for winning in the last play, i was gutted we did not at least get a point today.Widnes need some decent kickers in our side and hopefully Danny Tickle for next year.

I've just watched it again and done a slo mo.

Touch judges got it correct. The ball is just outside the right hand post.

Go and break the news to the Widnes fans. Some got very bitter yesterday and was writing to the RFL asking for the two points to be awarded to them

Not all mate as i said we missed several kicks, and we need a decent goalkicker.I think Rogues may have looked at the wrong goalkick.For me i am pleased with our improvements over the last few weeks, and i enjoyed the game.

It was the one off the Dean try that was shown on Sky? so I presumed that was the one that all the fuss was about.

No it was the one off the AhVan interception,as Barrie McDermott said last night on super league full time AhVan shouldnt of slowed down and should of scored under the sticks

It was defanatley 2 points... Even Wello said on Twitter!!!!!!!!

I think credit should be given to Wilkin for chasing Ah Van all the way and making the conversion a bit more difficult (whether it went over or not!).