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| Quote ="Judder Man"Something that doesn,t exist in his team according to Wanes World of Rugby.'"
That's right. They're all nice boys who need protection from the meanies in the opposition teams!
Oh no, my bad. That's just Samkins.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"I see the world's greatest hooker was sent off tonight for a disgusting, unprovoked and cowardly assault on an innocent Oliver Elima.
Such a shame to see the best player in the world do such a thing. Or is he just being found out as a thug of a person and an average player?'"
Quote ="Saddened!"I really doubt he was elbowed in the head 3 or 4 times. You're confusing your sports son, this isn't the WWE. If it were Wigan would have distracted the ref and used the steel chair on poor Elima.'"
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| Just watched the incident on Utube. You can see Micky Mac, tackle completed, wait for the ref to turn away then grabs Elima in the throat. Elima is having none of it, gives a couple of elbows before Mickey Mac sees the Red Mist of Wigan and gives a roundhouse punch.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Just watched the incident on Utube. You can see Micky Mac, tackle completed, wait for the ref to turn away then grabs Elima in the throat. Elima is having none of it, =#FF0000gives a couple of elbows before Mickey Mac sees the Red Mist of Wigan and gives a roundhouse punch.'"
So both should have seen a yellow card?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"So both should have seen a yellow card?'"
No, =#FF0000Red, Simples
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| Three elbows, ha don't make me laugh.
Just seen it for the first time on SL fulltime.
Hock makes a hash of it, Elima drops on the ball, Mickey comes in on the deck arms around Elima's neck.
Elima stands up, Mickey still hanging onto the neck so Elima tries to shrug him off, he still holds on.
He tries to shrug him off again, he is still holding onto his neck.
The final shrug at worst could be an elbow to the ribs, but that's using wigan glasses. Really it's just another shrug. This gets mickey off his neck and he punched elima who does not roll on the floor, he just holds his face.
Typical Wiganers, making up some drama to excuse their players actions thinking that because it was not live on TV no one else would see it for what it was.
Similar to the wiganers trying to say LMS headbutted Hock to excuse hock whirling his fists.
Certainly there is now an option to defeat Wigan in the playoffs, first game just get at Hock and MM, you could have 2 bans straight out there. Who knows how many head cases there are in that squad.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Hock makes a hash of it, Elima drops on the ball, Mickey comes in on the deck arms around Elima's neck.
Elima stands up, Mickey still hanging onto the neck so Elima tries to shrug him off, he still holds on.
He tries to shrug him off again, he is still holding onto his neck. The final shrug at worst could be an elbow to the ribs, but that's using wigan glasses. Really it's just another shrug. This gets mickey off his neck and he punched elima who does not roll on the floor, he just holds his face.'"
I've just seen it myself on SL Fulltime and I'd say you've described the incident spot on. Clearly Elima wasn't expecting the punch as his head snapped right back. Quite a punch too. Didn't want to miss.
McIlorum deserved the red. There wasn't even a case for provocation since he'd been the one hanging on to Elima's throat, thus provoking Elima if anything.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Three elbows, ha don't make me laugh.
Just seen it for the first time on SL fulltime.
Hock makes a hash of it, Elima drops on the ball, Mickey comes in on the deck arms around Elima's neck.
Elima stands up, Mickey still hanging onto the neck so Elima tries to shrug him off, he still holds on.
He tries to shrug him off again, he is still holding onto his neck.
The final shrug at worst could be an elbow to the ribs, but that's using wigan glasses. Really it's just another shrug. This gets mickey off his neck and he punched elima who does not roll on the floor, he just holds his face.
Typical Wiganers, making up some drama to excuse their players actions thinking that because it was not live on TV no one else would see it for what it was.
Similar to the wiganers trying to say LMS headbutted Hock to excuse hock whirling his fists.
Certainly there is now an option to defeat Wigan in the playoffs, first game just get at Hock and MM, you could have 2 bans straight out there. Who knows how many head cases there are in that squad.'"
Actually if you look really closely you can see that Elima cuts McIlorum's head off with a chainsaw just before he swings the punch.
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| Quote ="Dux"Actually if you look really closely you can see that Elima cuts McIlorum's head off with a chainsaw just before he swings the punch.'"
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| Quote ="Dux"Actually if you look really closely you can see that Elima cuts McIlorum's head off with a chainsaw just before he swings the punch.'"
It was all Elima's fault as he had installed an electro magnet in his neck, which he used to draw MM arm to his neck ........ Wigan fans fill in the rest of the excuse and made up story ......
Always good for a tall tale.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery" A yellow for both players would probably have been the correct decision.'" I don't think you can realistically suggest the Elima did anything that was worth a yellow card.
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"I don't think you can realistically suggest the Elima did anything that was worth a yellow card.'"
I heard he pulled a scary face at a kitten once
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"I heard he pulled a scary face at a kitten once'"
Jeez! What next -overdue library books?
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| Let's face it, this is just indicative of the way Wane wants his players to play the game. He's already come out in the press basically saying that he's given his players free rein to assault opposition players [iif they feel[/i that Sam Tomkins is being tackled unfairly, instead of placing trust in the match officials (n.b. if they feel, not whether an actual offence has been committed). If that's his attitude in the media then lord knows what he actually says behind closed doors.
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| Quote ="McClennan"Let's face it, this is just indicative of the way Wane wants his players to play the game. He's already come out in the press basically saying that he's given his players free reign to assault opposition players [iif they feel[/i that Sam Tomkins is being tackled unfairly, instead of placing trust in the match officials (n.b. if they feel, not whether an actual offence has been committed). If that's his attitude in the media then lord knows what he actually says behind closed doors.'"
Well, he's got quite a team spirit going on and he has got them to the top of the league,so I'll not criticise him too much, but some of the posts on here along the lines of "Well, Elima elbowed him 3 times in the face, so its no wonder he retaliated." are farcical. There was a bit of pushing and shoving because Elima was being prevented from playing the ball, that's it.
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| Well don't some Wigan posters look a bit silly now!
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"so I'll not criticise him too much,'"
The first rule of Fight Club is: You do not talk about Fight Club.
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| Quote ="Albion"Well don't some Wigan posters look a bit silly now!'"
Now? Haven't they always? I'd always put it down to chromosomal abnormalities.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"I really doubt he was elbowed in the head 3 or 4 times. You're confusing your sports son, this isn't the WWE. If it were Wigan would have distracted the ref and used the steel chair on poor Elima.'"
Should have waited till poor Elima turned away then sloshed him one. How many more games has he left to serve? you know who I mean..Don't you?????? One has lost count, so many!
Rock 'n' Roll.
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| Quote ="pies-r-us"Should have waited till poor Elima turned away then sloshed him one. How many more games has he left to serve? you know who I mean..Don't you?????? One has lost count, so many!
Rock 'n' Roll.'"
Has been no big loss though...but how are you going to cope without the world's best hooker?
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| Quote ="Albion"Has been no big loss though...but how are you going to cope without the world's best hooker?'"
We don't have him, I still think he plays for Saints, but give MM time. He's working on it!
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| Quote ="pies-r-us"give MM time. '" A bit harsh. One or two match ban, I reckon.
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| He's got sending off sufficient by entering a a guilty plea.
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| Just like Roby is continuing the legacy of KC, it's nice to McIllorum continuing the legacy laid down by Newton.
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