I'm not calling him a bad player as he's shown he can good player and at the back end of last year looked a top class centre.

I just don't think he fits in. Maybe it was the love of playing for his home town club that gave him motivation, maybe he feels like a lesser player in a team of more stars than cas, maybe he don't like the travel every day or maybe we just don't fit together in terms of style.

I honestly think its best for both parties that he leaves at the end of the year. I don't think he wants to be 100% here and I don't think Nathan Brown wants him a 100% either.

I spoke to shenton last year in the week leading up to the grand final and he was giddy as hell about the game. He kept saying this is why I signed for saints and he couldn't wait for the final.

IMHO I just think he's a down to earth home town lad.

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So was Newlove, and he didn't do too badly in red vee

Why is everyone making Gidley out to be some form of god? He was no better than Shenton for most of his stay with us and his final year was absolutely appalling, he was anonymous throughout.

Newlove. Christ I really don't see why everyone is so up his backside.

He was OK when he was about 18 and at Featherstone. Played for GB and lived off that for the rest of his career. In later life he was tubby, not particularly quick, couldn't tackle and was lazy. The most annoying thing by far was as soon as a GB series was announced, he couldn't get his "I'm not available" note into the RFL quickly enough, which not only shows contempt for his country, but also shows his arrogance in assuming he'd be picked in the first place.

This just proves you watch Coronation Street or something when matches are being played.

Ade Gardner fell over the line many times as a direct result of Gidley putting him there.

"Not as good as Lyon" doesn't make a player 'bad'

That kind of makes it sound like you're the one watching Corry when the matches are played.
Unless that's a fishing expedition....

Nope not at all. I think my analysis of newlove is spot on.

Why? Don't you?

He was no George Carmont that's for sure.

Correct.

S.

Oh you were being sarcastic were you? (As if I didn't know that)

Put your glasses on and get real.

Oh dear God, please... Oh my poor aching sides....















Oh, oh, oh.... Please, please, [iplease[/i do the "McIllorum is better than Roby" one as well... or "it's better to rent a stadium than own one"... or "it's great being a 7-toed, 3-headed inbred mutant with a pie fetish and ridiculous opinions"... that one [ireally[/i cracks me up...

"Carmont better than Newlove"....















Ow, ow, ow... I think I need surgery now....

"Tony Kay was a better centre than Kevin Iro, Dean Bell and Tuigamala combined"

See? I can do it too!!!

Newlove scored 36 tries in 27 matches in 1996 when we won the title. That's probably about as many tries as Carmont has scored in his entire Wigan career.

And before you mention centre play, have a think about how may tries Anthony Sullivan scored alongside Newlove. I remember Newlove putting him in for 5 walk ins in one game alone.

p.s. how old are you? Serious question as I can only imagine you didn't watch Newlove destroy players throughout the 90s in a way that Carmont never has.

Cue response about reeling people in, although I fear this was actually your genuine opinion.

Agreed.

This post has got to be a joke?

Newlove was worldclass, without a shadow of doubt!

He was top class for us and worth every single penny we paid for him. He had pace, size, power, good little step and a great hand off.

He not only did it for saints but was also top class at international level.

The day you actually take serious anything this clown has to say is the day you should pack in watching rugby league and go and join a monastery.

Agreed

I am prepared to take the flak for this post, but I always thought Newlove under performed far too many times for him to be rated world class. My opinion for what its worth.

Newlove was Great Britain quality but I don't think I ever considered him to be the best in the world.

There are some monstrously, seriously clueless numpties who post on here, but this guy has just raised the bar for one-eyed idiot uneducated opinion to truly Olympian heights...

I mean.... "Carmont better than Newlove"... FFS.... What do you have to be packing in the brain department to possibly be able to believe that... How utterly, utterly self-deluded do you have to be? He's probably a better player [inow[/i than ****ing Carmont is....



Maybe not quite, but at his best he wasn't far off and only Judas was even remotely in the same class for a long time in the '90s. He would have got caps for Australia at his peak no question and there've only been a handful of British players who you can claim that of over the last 30 years. He was never quite the same after the injury but he was still a top, top player.

We need a clown smiley!!!! Just for those special people....

Newlove was more than just a player. He was an art form. The most balanced centre (for his size) this country has produced in decades. He possessed a lethal fend, poetically fluid lateral movement and if he got outside his opposite number you could pretty much bank on either a try or a lengthy break.

Prior to his arrival Saints had built up a pretty competitive side but we lacked the kind of cutting edge that turned a tough away game at Castleford into a cakewalk.

Newlove provided that in spades and his presence kick-started our lengthy run of success. His contribution to our first championship was, well ... total.

Ironically, Newlove's arrival also began the Bulls' extended period of dominance. Nickle, Dwyer and Loughlin (plus a truckload of cash) transformed them into a very competitive outfit which was built upon successfully.

That transfer really did crack the competition wide open.

According to the sun newspaper (yeah i know)
He's signed for us on a 3 year deal.

My understanding of him leaving he just asnt settled at saints.
No disrespect to saints (my 2nd team) some players think the grass is greener, unfortunatly this is not always the case.