It maybe desperation and I don't think he is the best coach but Noble knows how to steady a ship. He's doing nowt at the moment and even if it needs a two year deal, steady and 1 plan is better than chaos and no plan.

Who did Royce play at scrum half, please don,t say Gary Wheeler.

Keep the faith...

..it wasn't that long ago that Headingley echoed loud with 'MacDermott & Lowes out!'

FWIW, reckon you'll finish above Bulls, but will struggle to reach top 4. Leeds may have won from 5th last year, but can't see that happening again.

McManus has made two shocking appointments in Potter and Simmons .If this carries on the number of season ticket renewals will plummet

Gary Wheeler.

If there's anyone's judgement he's unlikely to question, it's probably his own...

He cares alot about his suntan aswell by the looks of him.

For the sake of this season Royce needs to go and somebody needs to come in with fresh idea's who the players respect?
It's just not going for him this year he's down the players are down and we need a lift?

A new coach and a new player in whatever position is required to rescue this season. Nice guy Rpyce but someone's got to take the blame and it won't be the players who have got him close to the sack

Do you live in Callands in Warrington?

Place your bets now on how long you think it will take Northampton Saint to tell us that the weekly rounds don't matter and we'll magically become a different team in the play offs.

In fairness, they don't. Provided you finish in the top 8... of course whether we'll make the top 8 and have the chance to become a different team is very much up for debate right now.

I though some of you were exaggerating when describing how poor Saints currently are, boy was I wrong. Clueless, headless chickens would best describe your side at present. Regardless of what SKY may say Bradford were poor tonight yet still managed to beat you with possibly the worst attack in the league, bar your own of course.

As for Royce. Terrible decision to bring on Ashe with 15 to go. Particularly if he sent him about there to assume control of the team, which is what he tried to do. If there's ever a time not to introduce a young kid into a match it was then.

It'll matter when we dont make top 8 , honestly based on the last couple of weeks who in SL would we beat??

sadly that sums him up as a head coach.

Nonsense. When Potter was signed he came with a better record than Millward. The latter turned a second division side into an almost first division one. The former did it with a French side that had been written off.

Simmons had a top record for working with kids. Which is precisely what we had. And he almost pulled it off.

Royce appears to be rather prone to making as many errors as his team at present. I rather think the whole set up has gone a bit wrong.

Exactly what I've been saying for a month now, I even started a thread saying we need fresh ideas and a whole shake up on the coaching side.

The players should take some of the responsibility but the ultimate blame for such poor start is down to Royce and his staff.

Every desicion they have made from recruitment, rotation, no pre season games, a over long rest wgen other teams was doing pre season has caught up with us.

I said all last year he's not a first team coach and the injuries was a blessing in disguise for him as he didn't have to pick a team and basically we just went out and played.

The biggest worry of mine, he will have set us back years. The recruitment he's made is a disaster and god help the nex t coach who's got to sort out this mess.

I'm just sad, I knew a slump was coming, all teams after time at the top go through a slump, but I really thought that the last few years was our slump, going down in performance and ability, but still just about holding our own.

But it seams I mis-judged the last few years, far from being our slump, it was infact the sunset of a once great team that probably did not bring in as many trophies as it could have due to being up against a Leeds team of better quality and legs in the right positions.

I'm just thankful that I will miss what maybe a very ugly couple of weeks, with fans turning on the coach and chants at the ground. Until now this has mostly been kept to internet forums and I would say 25% of early starters who always start early with the doom and gloom, but now it could hit the masses.

I still think we will not get anyone new before Easter Monday but removal may happen earlier than that. MacManus cares about this club deeply and as much as sacking a coach will cost money, not having half the season tickets next year compared to this will cost him and the club even more.

Welcome to the party. Most knew what a rubbish coach this fella was when he got the job. He's not a first team coach, that's pure and simple.

It kills me to call him because honestly he's a top guy, he'd cut a finger off for win tonight he's that dedicated but he's just not up to the job.

We should try and get DA back for rest of the season and put scully as his assistant.

I'd even take longy back as a player, we are desperate for someone to control the team and lead us.

The only reason Royce is bringing a back off the bench late in the game is to stop all us fans moaning that we are only playing with 16 men.

I'd strongly advise you Saints fans to stick together here as numerous Rhinos fans wanted shut of Brian Mac last season, but look how our season panned out

Keep the faith guys, as i could envisage Saints again making the GF and even winning it

I second that. So gutted. I honestly thought we was going to win tonight. God help us next Sunday! & The two weeks after that.

Player coach?

The thing is though you had reason to start poorly. Key players in McGuire and Peacock missing from the start of the season for a number of weeks along with others. We didn't have that excuse, until the last couple of games we've been virtually fully fit.

Maybe.

We are desperate and we need a scrum half now!