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| Is it beyond the wit of local bus companies to see a huge revenue opportunity here?
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| I can see a few wheel clamping firms rubbing their hands.
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| I thought Langtree had identified some extra space on the site and they were looking at applying for planning permission to develop it into a pay car park. I can't see Tesco being happy on a Friday night if their cap park
was all of a sudden filled with spectators and shoppers had problems with finding a space.
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| I haven`t seen anything about Langtree finding extra space for parking onsite and it says quite clearly
Quote No parking is available at the stadium, Peasley Cross Lane or any of the surrounding roads which are clearways. Tesco will have a number plate recognition scheme in place and parking time is restricted. Any breaches result in an automatic financial penalty.'"
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| Quote ="Gruntfuttock"I haven`t seen anything about Langtree finding extra space for parking onsite and it says quite clearly '"
Saints mentioned a little while ago that discussions were in play with retail parks and St Helens Chamber of Commerce concerning possible parking options. Clearly no progress was made in those discussions and town centre parking is all there is.
As for Langtree, it looks like a car park is being developed to the left of the Peasley Cross entrance but who that is for isn't mentioned anywhere.
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| I am pretty sure the "overflow" car park is for functions and events at the stadium, you would`nt get many supporters in there anyway , and I wouldnt say the car parking is all there is , i think if you add up the town centre car parks there are ample spaces , adding up the ones Saints mention gives 1410 spaces all within a maximum of 10 minute walk from Langtree Park
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"I wouldn't really call driving to the next roundabout on the road, then a short 2 minute to the car park drive totally impractical, mildly inconvenient perhaps, but nothing more. It'll take you as long to work your way to Jackson St and walk from there.'"
Obviously, you don't have to make the same trip.
The traffic would be horrendous, as I will have to drive past/through the congested area around the groundto get to the town centre parking unless I go the long way round through burtonwood or via the east lancs. I will also be able to get a quick getaway (imagine what it will be like trying to get out of tontine st car park or the olf safeway site) from the warrington side of the town and won't pay for parking to boot!
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| Quote ="saint at wire"Obviously, you don't have to make the same trip.
The traffic would be horrendous, as I will have to drive past/through the congested area around the groundto get to the town centre parking unless I go the long way round through burtonwood or via the east lancs. I will also be able to get a quick getaway (imagine what it will be like trying to get out of tontine st car park or the olf safeway site) from the warrington side of the town and won't pay for parking to boot!'"
Whilst you are true you will hit congestion, you're going to face that in some shape or form with the other places you mentioned, or indeed anywhere in the area on a matchday, that much is common sense when you have 1000's of people arriving or leaving an area at a similar time.
Coming from the M62 you're going to hit traffic at the McDonalds roundabout, even more so upon leaving, Burtonhead road may be the easiest option of these providing that it is not monitored by wardens but getting away post game won't be easy via the island. Sherdley Business Park on Scorecross might be an option as you can then go down Marshalls Cross Road back towards Lea Green & the M62.
If you do/are able to park on Jackson Street there is a footbridge over the rail tracks that links Manor Street (off Jackson Street) & Alma Street (off Peasley Cross lane) opposite the stadium. Its not very well lit back there and is a bit rough.
Personally I'm not sure how well they can police Ravenhead retail park as there are several ways to access it and given that most of the shops are closed by 8pm anyway it seems unlikely to cause difficulties to the businesses and shoppers there.
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| Quote ="Tony Stark"Whilst you are true you will hit congestion, you're going to face that in some shape or form with the other places you mentioned, or indeed anywhere in the area on a matchday, that much is common sense when you have 1000's of people arriving or leaving an area at a similar time.
Coming from the M62 you're going to hit traffic at the McDonalds roundabout, even more so upon leaving, Burtonhead road may be the easiest option of these providing that it is not monitored by wardens but getting away post game won't be easy via the island. Sherdley Business Park on Scorecross might be an option as you can then go down Marshalls Cross Road back towards Lea Green & the M62.
If you do/are able to park on Jackson Street there is a footbridge over the rail tracks that links Manor Street (off Jackson Street) & Alma Street (off Peasley Cross lane) opposite the stadium. Its not very well lit back there and is a bit rough.
Personally I'm not sure how well they can police Ravenhead retail park as there are several ways to access it and given that most of the shops are closed by 8pm anyway it seems unlikely to cause difficulties to the businesses and shoppers there.'"
But most fans will be arriving well before 8pm.
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| Quote ="wigan pier"But most fans will be arriving well before 8pm.'"
And they may well put barriers on just like on the Robin Park site.
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| Quote ="Tony Stark"Whilst you are true you will hit congestion, you're going to face that in some shape or form with the other places you mentioned, or indeed anywhere in the area on a matchday, that much is common sense when you have 1000's of people arriving or leaving an area at a similar time.
Coming from the M62 you're going to hit traffic at the McDonalds roundabout, even more so upon leaving, Burtonhead road may be the easiest option of these providing that it is not monitored by wardens but getting away post game won't be easy via the island. Sherdley Business Park on Scorecross might be an option as you can then go down Marshalls Cross Road back towards Lea Green & the M62.
If you do/are able to park on Jackson Street there is a footbridge over the rail tracks that links Manor Street (off Jackson Street) & Alma Street (off Peasley Cross lane) opposite the stadium. Its not very well lit back there and is a bit rough.
Personally I'm not sure how well they can police Ravenhead retail park as there are several ways to access it and given that most of the shops are closed by 8pm anyway it seems unlikely to cause difficulties to the businesses and shoppers there.'"
Thanks Tony. I'd forgotten about the little footbridge!
Can you delete this thread now before eveyone gets the same idea for parking?
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| Quote ="wigan pier"But most fans will be arriving well before 8pm.'"
Yes but even if they arrive an hour or more before kick off are the shops going to be full of people between say 6-8pm on a friday evening? so much so that all parking spaces will be filled?
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| Quote ="Tony Stark"Yes but even if they arrive an hour or more before kick off are the shops going to be full of people between say 6-8pm on a friday evening? so much so that all parking spaces will be filled?'"
I understood Tony because of the size that opening hours were going to be longer, have you ever been shopping at 7pm on a Friday, No Supermarket is empty as many see it as time when it is quiet and it's not!
Tesco simply can't afford to risk that there car park will be full of rugby fans and deter shoppers, though the traffic around the stadium may on match nights. Annoys me in Newton-le-Willows on a Saturday trying to get a space on Tesco as everyone parks there to go to the market, but I understand that was one of the requirements of the council as it was there land!
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| Quote ="Two Wheeled Saint"icon_lol.gif Use Google street view and go down Alma street, look at the lads outside the Autogas business.
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| Best bet for ease will be the car park at The Raven hotel. Theres a good 30plus spaces walking distance and itll be easier to get away. Multi storey and chalon way will be a nightmarequeing to get out.
I wonder which is the closest boozer to the new ground Raven must be up there.
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| Quote ="Sporties"Best bet for ease will be the car park at The Raven hotel. Theres a good 30plus spaces walking distance and itll be easier to get away. Multi storey and chalon way will be a nightmarequeing to get out.
I wonder which is the closest boozer to the new ground Raven must be up there.'"
The George Hotel on George street isnt far , usually has good german bottled beers , and is a staunch Saints pub , loads of memorabelia and vintage games to watch before the game , what more do you want?
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| Quote ="Two Wheeled Saint"icon_lol.gif Use Google street view and go down Alma street, look at the lads outside the Autogas business.
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you have to make sure your close to the orange car though to get the best picture
seriously though, you can see the opportunity on this street for small firms to charge people a couple of quid to park on their lots.
Jackson street in particular has firms with far bigger car parks.
wonder also if people will nip onto st.helens hospital car park then walk down Marshalls cross road
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| Quote ="jaybs"I understood Tony because of the size that opening hours were going to be longer, have you ever been shopping at 7pm on a Friday, No Supermarket is empty as many see it as time when it is quiet and it's not!
Tesco simply can't afford to risk that there car park will be full of rugby fans and deter shoppers, though the traffic around the stadium may on match nights. Annoys me in Newton-le-Willows on a Saturday trying to get a space on Tesco as everyone parks there to go to the market, but I understand that was one of the requirements of the council as it was there land!'"
I wasn't talking about Tesco dude, just the Ravenhead retail park i.e. B&Q, Carphonewarehouse etc. It was more theoretical than anything.
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| Quote ="Gruntfuttock"The George Hotel on George street isnt far , usually has good german bottled beers , and is a staunch Saints pub , loads of memorabelia and vintage games to watch before the game , what more do you want?'" Naaargh Firstly i dont wanna queue from the door ,Im with Sporties on this one i noticed your surrupticious 'get a plug in'(bloody nice German beers loool you the George marketing man) for the George,Raven is closer and way bigger lots of space ,bit grubby but not lookin at the decor on match day plus the George would be crammed and queue for beer starting at the entrance door no way ,back to Raven at least there would be pockets of space even if it was packed.All raven needs is a bit o' tlc more pumps and it'll be what the Black Bull was for knowsley road but better Ravens got my vote
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| Went to Wrexham last year, parked on Homebase car park who were charging 3/4 quid and donating it to charity. Excellent PR.
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Tesco will have a number plate recognition scheme in place and parking time is restricted. Any breaches result in an automatic financial penalty.
Re the above you normally get 2 hours free parking at Tescopoly so go in buy a pie and a can as a paying customer your ok also with these number plate recognition cameras and a financial penalty following just ignore them not worth the paper they are printed on just check out this site for any info regards this matter.
www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/fo ... c-Offences
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Tesco will have a number plate recognition scheme in place and parking time is restricted. Any breaches result in an automatic financial penalty.
Re the above you normally get 2 hours free parking at Tescopoly so go in buy a pie and a can as a paying customer your ok also with these number plate recognition cameras and a financial penalty following just ignore them not worth the paper they are printed on just check out this site for any info regards this matter.
www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/fo ... c-Offences
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| The nearest pub must be the Rendevous surely?
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| What's The Alfred like these days? I spent many a happy hour there in my younger days.
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