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| I was told Veolia waste was the front runners about a month ago.
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I knew there was a reason why I didn't like the Park idea.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"This one then?
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Still makes me smile to this day shame they got bailed out by uncle Dave I'd have loved them ground sharing with orrell (back when they owned there own shed)
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| Quote ="bocaboca"You could call it conjecture but it is a solid rumour from a good source (where involvement in the final stages of construction are involved) as I pointed out when starting the topic.'"
I would call that conjecture too.
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| Quote ="Wheels"I would call that conjecture too.'"
Have you mod types been on an law course or something?
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| Quote ="SomersetSaint"I'm sure it will bring in the wonga but it isn't inspiritatonal as a name for an iconic ground. It's hardly a field of dreams catchy little number'"
Not many big companies called Field of Dreams though...
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"Not many big companies called Field of Dreams though...'"
Surely there must be a bed shop in Chorley called that, or something.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Have you mod types been on an law course or something?'"
Yeah, tb taught us all last week in his basement.
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"Could be worse , it could be 'The Kettle'
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...........or we could be sponsored by Yorkshire Tea.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"This one then?
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As much as our rivalry goes and I know its deep to say the least between saints and Wigan,but looking at pictures like that I find very sad.Those old grounds were part of our heritage
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"As much as our rivalry goes and I know its deep to say the least between saints and Wigan,but looking at pictures like that I find very sad.Those old grounds were part of our heritage'"
And now it's a car park. Doesn't make me sad at all, things move on.
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"And now it's a car park. Doesn't make me sad at all, things move on.'"
oh yes things move on we need more modern stadia,but I was just being nostalgic when Isaw that pic
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"oh yes things move on we need more modern stadia,but I was just being nostalgic when Isaw that pic'"
I think that picture should hang in the boardroom of all clubs as a warning of what happens when clubs management lives beyond its means for a short period of success. Wigan's "glorious" history was tossed on the 80s bonfire for the sake of 8 challenge cup wins. They not only threw away their home, but also mortgaged their future, and now find themselves as tennants of a footy club who treats them as second rate neighbours. Was the success really worth it?
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| Quote ="SomersetSaint"I think that picture should hang in the boardroom of all clubs as a warning of what happens when clubs management lives beyond its means for a short period of success. Wigan's "glorious" history was tossed on the 80s bonfire for the sake of 8 challenge cup wins. They not only threw away their home, but also mortgaged their future, and now find themselves as tennants of a footy club who treats them as second rate neighbours. Was the success really worth it?'"
TO be fair to Wigan it actually was.
They landed on their feet. But not all clubs do and some go to the wall and are never seen again.
Renting is no indicment of a club, alot of successful sporting clubs rent. I beleive alot of Stadia in Auz and the USA rent their stadia.
Ownership is not a requirement of success, I'm sure NExt and M&S rent most of their buildings, they are not overly concerned about owning them to make themselves more successful.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"TO be fair to Wigan it actually was.
They landed on their feet. But not all clubs do and some go to the wall and are never seen again.
Renting is no indicment of a club, alot of successful sporting clubs rent. I beleive alot of Stadia in Auz and the USA rent their stadia.
Ownership is not a requirement of success, I'm sure NExt and M&S rent most of their buildings, they are not overly concerned about owning them to make themselves more successful.'"
The difference here though is that M&S and Next only have to pay rent on loaning a building and all the commercial transactions other than that are kept.
With renting a stadium its different. How much would Wigan be better off if they kept all the money from conferencing and other events at the DW rather than it going to Mr Whelans pockets and Whelco. Other than what they generate on a match day the stadium can't be utilised to generate any extra income outside of games.
Even if Wigan at the time had moved away from Central Park to a new stadium a 50-50 shared ownership with the Football club would have been better than just being the tenants.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"TO be fair to Wigan it actually was.
They landed on their feet. But not all clubs do and some go to the wall and are never seen again.
Renting is no indicment of a club, alot of successful sporting clubs rent. I beleive alot of Stadia in Auz and the USA rent their stadia.
Ownership is not a requirement of success, I'm sure NExt and M&S rent most of their buildings, they are not overly concerned about owning them to make themselves more successful.'"
Big difference between renting and long term leasing. Also I don't think Next shares its stores with another competitor brand.
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| Wigoon still won the league last year so how does that figure in the argument about owning your own stadium? Not owning it is not a barrier to winning.
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| Quote ="McClennan"Wigoon still won the league last year so how does that figure in the argument about owning your own stadium? Not owning it is not a barrier to winning.'"
I see the difference lying in the future. Club like Saints, Hull, Leeds, Warrington, Hudds, can use their facilities to genrate considerable amounts of income. Wigoon have very little option available to expand their revenues, other than increasing attendances or shop sales. The off field revenues of a well run club could dwarf whatever the club can generate through the turnstiles at a couple of dozen home game throughout the season.
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| Quote ="SomersetSaint"I see the difference lying in the future. Club like Saints, Hull, Leeds, Warrington, Hudds, can use their facilities to genrate considerable amounts of income. Wigoon have very little option available to expand their revenues, other than increasing attendances or shop sales. The off field revenues of a well run club could dwarf whatever the club can generate through the turnstiles at a couple of dozen home game throughout the season.'"
It can make it more difficult yes but that doesn't mean impossible.
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| New Stadium name to be announced on Tuesday!
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| Quote ="Tony Stark"New Stadium name to be announced on Tuesday!'"
Tres interesant. One wonders what name it could be... The suspense is killing me...
When is the away kit revealed? Are we being ultra cynical and not revealing it until after Christmas so people actually bother to buy the home kit?
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Tres interesant. One wonders what name it could be... The suspense is killing me...
When is the away kit revealed? Are we being ultra cynical and not revealing it until after Christmas so people actually bother to buy the home kit?'"
Patience!
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| Quote ="Tony Stark"New Stadium name to be announced on Tuesday!'"
On Try Time last night, McManus said it was going to be announced within the next 'two or three weeks' so I figure it is imminent.
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| I hear the sponsor is “exceedingly good”
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