I think your resurgence in atmosphere started last season as your fans seemed to be more vocal even before you had any success. Perhaps a new optimism.

Yeah, we always have been good, but when Noble left, we had a new belief, but the Ultras have brought something good and new to the support. I love it.

I agree; those goons doing really get on my t*ts - which is probably what is intended.
I'm also guessing it also gets on some of their own supporters t*ts which is probably not what was intended although the morons who do it probably don't care.

Unfortunately the BBC (yesterday) and Sky (when we got hammered by them at widnes) gave them the oxygen of publicity.
I just hope we don't follow them down that particular track which appeals to the yob in all of us.

I think the general consensus from redvee is that they're just hoping to set up an organised singing group rather than an ultra scene. It just makes people feel part of something and will no doubt increase the number of singers!

Although it can be very effective, the ultra scene runs the risk of getting out of hand. Also, I don't think it suits a 'family game'. However, Wigan seemed to have steered away from the ultra side of things and concentrated more on the singing side with the rebranding of the 'brigantes'. Its a more friendly brand and I think encourages more people (of all ages) to get involved.

Well played I say

Ultras (i'm guessing) refers to the flag side of things and not the violent side of things seen in italy. I think it brightens up
the stands and shows the commitment of the fans.

The ultra fans associated with football are full of vile hate. Would be interesting to see however, if they were as hard with no hoodies on
and no knives and play a proper game.

Me and my two mates stayed in the ground as long as possible, before the stewards came waltzing down to get rid off us. Then we had to leave!

Spot on Gaz, the Ultras are the flags and the new songs. I know a few of them and they would not want any violence, it's all to create a better atmosphere, to make OUR GREAT GAME more accessible by people who may not like it.

Yeah, I could see, didn't look like you were causing trouble, just to try and watch us maybe eh

haha

If any of you question the motives of the people then come down and meet a few of us. Some of the nicest folk ou could wish to meet. No idiots appart from myself



I really think saints fans should do something similar even if it is just for singing. Personally I think the flags look great.



You can't deny they look great taken to away games and at the home games at the top of the south stand.

Plans for this have been under way for a long time. Details to come in the offseason!

As long as the Rugby League ultras are kept on a seperate mentality to those in football. In football they exist as a vehicle to organise violence and have little to do with the actual football.

I know you've been in touch with a couple of our lads who organize the flags etc but your more than welcome to come to one of our meetings and I'm sure we'd be more than willing to help you and your mates in whatever way we can.

No, no they don't. Having been to game with Sankt Pauli Ultras, and CSKA Sofia and Botev Ultra groups, they don't go out to create violence. An intimidating atmosphere, yes, but not violent.

A few mindless s who attach themselves for a ruckus is not the same as groups designed like 80s firms.

We'll be down. We wanted to get it organised sooner, but there is just too much apathy at the Stobart.

But when that intimidating atmosphere happens outside the ground what happens? One set of chest banging men meets another? It's a fight.

Rugby league is a family sport, so while the colour of the flags and the chanting is okay, I don't want to see intimidation anywhere near the sport.

So we don't have people spilling their passion on the day over already.

I remember back in 05, being stood in a bar in Wigan with about 30 Saints fans, and 30 Wigan fans. All shouting and singing at one another, then walking over and chatting and drinking with other, and mid chat, joining in with another song. That is all this is.

I think what Saddened! Is trying to say is don't start fighting and it will all be fine.

As long as we don't obtain a drum I don't care what we do to be honest, anything to generate an atmosphere is a good thing. Anyone planning to stand near me with a drum during a match should expect it not to be functioning by half time.

Hope you get something sorted! It will be worth it.

Derby days should be even more special if we both have an Ultras group.

Hopefully you can get something good going for homegames, you have the advantage of the standing area.

Joining in on this theme the flags look great i agree as sed the stobart stadiums a bit dead for some reason, next season we`ll get our own identity back withe the terracing behind the sticks, tho its sad to admit wigan fans do seem to leed the way

In fairness we've had the flags for years too, they just aren't as prominent at the Stobart as they were at the old girl. I honestly think the atmosphere will return once the bulk of the more vocal fans (and hopefully some new ones) return to one area at the new ground as opposed to being more sporadically situated in the seating at Stobart.

Quote ="Tony Stark"In fairness we've had the flags for years too, they just aren't as prominent at the Stobart as they were at the old girl. I honestly think the atmosphere will return once the bulk of the more vocal fans (and hopefully some new ones) return to one area at the new ground as opposed to being more sporadically situated in the seating at Stobart.'" www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBnWKwGWU2g www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lou-noiz ... re=related I think out flags are a little better

Quote ="Tony Stark"In fairness we've had the flags for years too, they just aren't as prominent at the Stobart as they were at the old girl. I honestly think the atmosphere will return once the bulk of the more vocal fans (and hopefully some new ones) return to one area at the new ground as opposed to being more sporadically situated in the seating at Stobart.'" www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBnWKwGWU2g www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lou-noiz ... re=related I think out flags are a little better

I really can't wait for next season, terracing will definitely be an advantage in attempt to start up an (ultra style) vocal support group.

That's one thing I wish we had at Wigan, terracing make things so much easier!

Aye advantage saints in that area.