Nail on head there.

That was a mistake by Shenton. He should have passed the ball. Hall could have snuck a try there.

I agree that we need to take such fixtures away from Headingley, not least because it's a dire stadium which doesn't look good.

It would have been far more apt if the Tesco where central park used to be had Radlinski written on the door mat at the entrance.

Cant really blame Tomkins. Our halves offered very little and Tomkins had sod all to 'link' into . We were as always poor.

make's a change from the wigan walk i suppose.

Classic

Back on topic, yes I've heard it before, at Elland Road in the tri nations as Harris took the field.

The Leeds fans do turn up in numbers for internationals in Leeds, but they bring their club mentality with them.

I've been at internationals at Wigan and Bolton and Blackburn, you will hear the odd comment about why is so and so playing, our player is so much better. But generally Wigan and Saints fans will keep their club loyalties in their back pockets and get on with supporting the team.

Tomkins was good tonight, not his best but better than some, I thought the Saints lads did pretty well, ok Wilkin threw a little over robinsons head, but he did break through. Robinson was pretty decent too, a very good player, filled in well for Roby. Thought Macalorum did not manage to keep us moving forwards the same. O'loughlin had some good moments. Thought Westwood and Graham ran really well, but Carvell and Morley did not offer the same threat, peacock had 1 decent run from what I saw. But in the end we just defended mostly. Our lack of decent halfback play meant we did not make much, when we got good field position.

I liked the way Wilkin and Meli got stuck into each other during the match, a few niggly digs like Wilkin flopping late on Meli over the try line. Not quite an orgin dust up, but still.

I was thinking about GB vs NZ in 2006 (?) at Knowsley Road tonight, and sections of Saints fans booing Newton in a GB jersey.

It was the same tonight, far too many people with a club over country and sport attitude will hold back rugby league.

Never booed Newton, but cheering for him after he smashed Long was a step too far for me.

A year or 2 later I got over myself and grew up a bit.

Slowing the play the ball down every time is NOT legal. It's cheating.

Classic as in old? That "joke" was on this board when the naming of the estate was announced. Nothing that idiot says is ever original so we shouldn't be surprised.

Leeds fans dont think much of Graham but i didnt hear them booing him. Just the rat. So i dont think it is just a club thing!

I don't think it was a Leeds thing. There were fans there from all over the place. Why would only Leeds fans boo Tomkins? So far as I know, he's universally annoying. Silly to boo though and it doesn't look good on TV. But then RL does still suffer from parochialism.

James Roby must be being judged on another planet then. Quite right really.

England really missed James Roby last night.

Not on last night's evidence he's not. He was outshone by the likes of Wilkin and Robinson who had a great game when he was on.

Not surprised to see Wiganers proclaiming a renowned cheat as 'the best in Super League'. Just about sums 'em up really.

If Roby had played the other 40 minutes to Luke Robinson, England would have won. Robinson was excellent.

Il admit, Wigan fans, myself included hated Sean Long, not because he was cocky, or arrogant, because he was class, because he always had the last laugh against us, because he played for our rivals and seemed to always get one over on us, and its exactly the same with other teams fans and Sam.

Ooops just upset the y

Sure Leeds fans like to get stuck into Graham , but he plays the game hard but fair , and pretty much has our respect for doing so , Ratboy on the other hand ..........

Judging by the amount of different club colours booing him last night , seems everyone outside the piedome dislikes the lad , a strange one really

Anyone booing Tomkins can f*ck off to football. We're trying a new concept last night for the first time. We might have relatively new viewers to the sport watching it last night. Their impression of RL fans would be soulless s who stay quiet for 80 minutes and boo their own players, when 99.9% aren't like that and care about the sport passionately. We try to distance ourselves from football fans and say that we have a family game. It was anything but last night.

Perfectly normal - you can admire his talent, his step and his skills, but he's just one of those players you can only really like if he plays for your team.

Both very different, but equally fantastic players.

Would walk into any team in the land without any hesitation.

Completely agree.

I find the attitude of some completely baffling, embarrassing and annoying.

Firstly, I can't stand Sam Tomkins. He epitomises eveything I hate about Wigan - he's sneaky, he's sly, he's a borderline cheat at times, he's extremely passionate about Wigan and is talented. As a Saints fan, there is no reason to like him. BUT, yesterday he was wearing the shirt of MY country. He, along with 17 others was representing MY side and for that he gets my complete support. Can those that boo him not put your hatred for him to one side for 80 minutes and get behind him? Is it really that difficult? It's not about being a hypocrite it's about being sensible and backing the players in MY side. I've never seen Tomkins give anything less than 100% in an England shirt, in good or bad performance, so there is no reason to boo him IMO. Sean Long isn't a particularly llikeable chap, on and off the field, but whilst he was wearing a Saints shirt he got my support because he gave it his all and represented MY side.

The thing is aswell, these people wonder why England are so bloody awful internationally and it's because we don't back our team - from the fans to the RFL. We don't invest enough time in it and the fans don't buy into it yet people wonder why it's so bad. Let's be honest, why would Tomkins want to represent England when he doesn't get backed by the fans? It's not even an isolated incident, it's happened with other players in the past and I imagine it'll happen again in future until people put their petty rivalries to one side for a FEW games. You don't get this in Australia and New Zealand, the governing body and the supporters really get behind their country and invest time and effort into it and get the results. We dont, and we deserve a poor playing nation because we back it poorly.