This whole thread is stupid.

You've wrote enough on here for such a stupid thread.

I suppose you think it's ok for jammer to rant and rave at players because he's jammer, our best player.

That makes me stupid too. So what's new?

And it's 'written' by the way.

Sorry I'm not as clever as you.

Just for you miss perfect.

Wilkin quite clearly says "Shut the xxxx up" followed by something along the lines of "who are you?". He is also clearly riled while saying it. You don't have to be a lipreader to spot that, and I spotted it on the first watch, before this thread was started.

Aye. 'Something along the lines of'! In other words, you don't know what was said. People can say 'shut the xxxx up' for any reason. There are some assumptions being made about conversations, the content of which no-one knows, which have taken place on a rugby pitch, as they always do. It's all a bit Heat magazine for me!

In that case, you won't mind if I tell you to shut the xxxx up?



Joking aside, though, I don't think it is a question of gossip. Clearly Wilkin was upset by Graham's response to his mistake (which, in fact, wasn't a mistake at all), and we've all seen Jammer venting his frustrations on teammates and referees alike in the past. Isn't the man management style of our co-captain a perfectly valid rugby-related point of discussion?

I agree, his man management is very poor. His ranting and raving at players dont helP anyone. He needs to cut it out. I'm all fir showing passion but turning on your own mates ain't good for the team.

IMO he's not got the class or quality to be a good captain.

He's a great player and prob one of the best in the world but he's not perfect and makes mistakes like any other player. I'd love to see his reaction if some ranted and raved at him for his miss tackle at hull that cost us a try and possibly the game.

Yes, it is, but based upon what we actually know rather than some Heat-style gossip garbage drummed up by an opposition fan who thinks he or she can lip read and interpret everything based upon snatches of interaction on the TV. All we know really is that Jammer gets red faced when on the rugby pitch. We don't know what he's saying or why he is saying it, most of us don't know him at all, just his on-field persona. Or what brief glimpses of it that we see.

Seems as tho your the only person that can't see what wilkin and jammer was saying.

I'm the only one not taken in by an opposition fan's speculation on what they were saying.

I noticed it when I watch the game back on Friday night. I've noticed many times that he often shouts at players if they make mistakes.

Anyone would think jammer was perfect.

That's your interpretation.


I don't see anyone on here saying that.

You crack me up babe.

Dux is an opposition fan?

Arguments happen all the time between players on the pitch, it's no big deal. Graham can be a leader, but needs to learn when to bollock and when to encourage, that comes with experience. I think he was given the captaincy in an attempt to keep him here, is he really ready? Possibly not, but it's not going to make a big difference to us this year and won't be a problem next.

The OP was written by Wire 91. I would assume they are an opposition fan?


Again, you're assuming he was bollocking someone, all based upon him being red faced and shouting, which is par for the course with Jammer.

Red faced and shouting at somebody is definitely bollocking them.

The fact an argument occurred has been confirmed by a Saints fan, your position on it being pure trolling has been shown to be incorrect by a respected poster on here. Let it go.



That's because he's usually bollocking someone, which has become a more common occurrence over the last few seasons.

When did I say it was trolling? I haven't said that at all. I've found it amusing that people have just agreed with speculation put forward by an opposition fan without question. I always find it amusing when the sheeple come out.


I don't see you out on the pitch. Which position do you play?

Well done on avoiding the point there, are you a politician? You have many of their traits in all honesty.

There is only you that thinks its speculation put forward by an opposition fan,its perfectly clear that Jammer has said something to Wilkin and Wilkin was clearly pee'd off and replied " who are you eh ? " Wilkin's face said it all,he was really peeved at Jammer and let him know it,you dont need to be able to lip read to see clearly what Wilkin said.

Given that the last thread i was invloved in that had you in it was you doubting Tompkins was knocked out when everyone else knew he was you have lost any credibility you ever had,you argue and argue long after the point is proven,why do you carry on when everyone else on here acknowledges whats gone on ?

There's a very simple answer to this. She's a woman and women can never admit they're wrong.

And that from a man!