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| Quote ="Fishsta"None of our players ever broke a man's eye socket and got away with it. Neither could we break the salary cap (in Saints' case more times than any other team) and get away with it. Nor could we have a player guilty of assault and get away with it. And I doubt we could have that same player assault another player's testes... and get away with it.
Like I said, the Fair Play League doesn't count all those things you get away with regularly. It's effectively meaningless when it comes to St Helens.'"
two words: 1.Toys 2.Pram!
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| Did a wigan fan just cry salary cap cheat at someone
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"Did a wigan fan just cry salary cap cheat at someone
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It made my day, that!
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| According to someone on the VT Lima found guilty and given 2 game ban so misses WCC (until they appeal of course)
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| Nothing on the RFL's site yet though. I'd rather wait for them to give an official report before believing what The Sun writes on Twitter (which it appears is where this came from, if the goon board is anything to believe).
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| Its on Sky Teletext, 2 match ban.
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| [url=http://www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.aspx?id=5640&type=1Yes. A two match ban with a £300 fine.[/url
What are the chances of that lasting an appeal?
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| How much do you wanna bet he get's it reduced to a one match ban so he can play in the WCC.
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| Everybody got two match bans from the weekend's disciplinary.
Do you think the RFL have grown muscles, teeth and balls in the off season? I sincerely hope so although I anticipate everyone will appeal and the whole thing will turn into a mass of warning letters.
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| Quote ="cjhatesunion"How much do you wanna bet he get's it reduced to a one match ban so he can play in the WCC.
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Its a certainty,shouldnt though the guy has previous. Cowardly thing to do.
Well done Wilkin!
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"I assume you mean one of those broken eye sockets that you can play RL with the week after?
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Still a broken eye socket and a vicious assault.
Quote No, but you can break it and still nearly get relegated. You're right though, Saints are naughty with salaries. Not quite as naughty as paying contracted players cash in hand to try to get them to sign for you, which they then spend on a holiday though eh?
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Do the words "Get away with it" ring any bells? Feka didn't.
Quote ="Don Brennan"Ok I'll raise you Terry Newton,Craig Smith(high stepping thug ruined Stankevitchs career) as for the salary cap,your priceless.'"
Newton didn't get away with doing basically what Cunningham did, though, did he? Craig Smith was a thug, and also didn't get away with much, certainly far less than Cunningham, Sculthorpe, Pryce, Fozzard, Stankevitch, Feuanati and many more that I haven't the time to list just now.
Quote Hows your ulcer,can you feel It burning.'"
You're right here, terrible spelling and grammar included.
Quote ="morleys_deckchair"Did a wigan fan just cry salary cap cheat at someone
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When it's St Helens, ANYONE can call them salary cap cheats. Thing is, Melbourne didn't get away with it, so far Saints still have. Was it 6 breaches in total to Wigan and Bradford's 4? Yup, I think it was, and one of Wigan's wasn't even a real breach. But that's an old story and done to death.
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| Quote ="Don Brennan"Well done Wilkin!'"
Yes indeedy.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"[url=http://www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.aspx?id=5640&type=1Yes. A two match ban with a £300 fine.[/url
What are the chances of that lasting an appeal?
If it does then that is great.'"
Why is it great?
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| Quote ="kirkamania6"Why is it great?'"
Because he deserved a two match ban for two tackles considered to be dangerous. So I think it would be great if any appeal failed.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Because he deserved a two match ban for two tackles considered to be dangerous. So I think it would be great if any appeal failed.'"
You thought the tackle on Wilkin was worthy of a 1 game ban?
Even if it was it would never of been reviewed if Wilkin hadn't complained to Silverwood.
A very football way of doing things and no place for it in Rugby IMO
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| Quote ="kirkamania6"You thought the tackle on Wilkin was worthy of a 1 game ban?
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Yes. It was clear from the Sky footage that Lima was working Wilkin's arm in the tackle. I didn't see the one on Soliola but that was worse, apparently. The man has clearly played dirty and he deserves to be punished for it. He and others like him (regardless of team) will get the message that dirty play won't be tolerated. That's assuming the RFL stick to their decision, obviously. They don't usually but they may have changed by some miracle.'"
Should of known you wouldnt reply to the rest of my post
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| I've watched it 4 times and he is working the arm but if were giving 2 games for that then were either going to have to change the whole arm wrestling work or were going to see alot of players banned.
Suprised Wilko spoke out, would of expected it of Graham or Wellens but not Wilkin
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| Quote ="kirkamania6"Should of known you wouldnt reply to the rest of my post
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I didn't know there was a rule saying I had to! I replied to your question, which seems like a logical thing to do.
As to the rest of your post, since you would like me to reply to it (for some reason), the RFL review all matches whether there has been any report made or action taken by the ref or not. So it is perfectly likely that the RFL would have spotted the tackles all by themselves. I'm told they are grown ups!
I didn't know that soccer fans politely spoke to the ref, having followed due process by asking to put forward a formal complaint in front of the captain of the opposition team but if you say it was soccer like then so be it. I'm all for players wanting to protect other players from unnecessary dangerous play. Good on Wilkin. The man has balls.
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| Quote ="St.Dave"I've watched it 4 times and he is working the arm but if were giving 2 games for that then were either going to have to change the whole arm wrestling work or were going to see alot of players banned.'"
The ban was for that and for a worse tackle on Soliola. So that was two dangerous tackles by the same player in the same match. Casts a different light on things, wouldn't you say?
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| I think your being overly harsh because it's a Wigan player. Both didnt look that bad and IMO should of carried a warning
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| Quote ="St.Dave"I think your being overly harsh because it's a Wigan player. '"
No. I would have felt exactly the same way if it had been Leeds.
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| Well, the precedent's set, let's hope for some consistency in dealing with similar incidents for the rest of the season. Y'know, like they did with Senior's kicking out in the tackle last year. Oh, wait...
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