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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Who gives an elephant's left testicle.
He's a fantastic fullback; the best in Superleague.'"
There's three better at Wigan.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"There's three better at Wigan.'"
Bollox.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Bollox.'"
What position does he play?
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Bollox.'"
Don't feed the troll. It's the off-season, he is extra bored
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| 4 Grand Final wins, 2 WCC, 5 Challenge Cups, 4 League Leaders shields.
Man of Steel, Players’ Player of the Year, Rugby League Writers’ Player of the Year. 2 Lance Todds, and 1 Harry Sunderland.
Not a bad choice for captain, will do for me!
I'm sure there's a Wigan player who can match these meagre awards for such a mediocre player, Rogues? Maybe not
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| Quote ="(Saint)"4 Grand Final wins, 2 WCC, 5 Challenge Cups, 4 League Leaders shields.
Man of Steel, Players’ Player of the Year, Rugby League Writers’ Player of the Year. 2 Lance Todds, and 1 Harry Sunderland.
Not a bad choice for captain, will do for me!
I'm sure there's a Wigan player who can match these meagre awards for such a mediocre player, Rogues? Maybe not
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Nice one Saint!
Not that Rogues is troubled by such things as facts. (And I'm sure there was a Wiganer in 1983 or something who won a Challenge Cup medal who was a far, far better fullback than Wello!)
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"There's three better at Wigan.'"
Now now rogues - can't you wait until the season starts. He may not be as fast as some but he makes up for it in brain power. There is no better full back in SL than Wello at the moment. Running fast is helpful but you need a rugby brain to achieve being a good one. In that dept. we have Wello.
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| Quote ="Agent Mulder"He may not be as fast as some but he makes up for it in brain power. There is no better full back in SL than Wello at the moment. Running fast is helpful but you need a rugby brain to achieve being a good one. '"
And as well as all that, he's cute!
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| If you had a choice for 2011 of Paul Wellens, Sam Tomkins, Pat Richards or Amos Roberts, who would you chose?
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| I think Paul Wellens would be the most suitable candidate, although some posters on this thread seemed to have derailed it towards a fullback peeing contest. Although if they all want to come to Saints they could be part of the captaincy 'team'!
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"If you had a choice for 2011 of Paul Wellens, Sam Tomkins, Pat Richards or Amos Roberts, who would you chose?'"
You've had one good season?
Wellens has done more in the game than those lot put together. He's the best defender out of those lot, he's the most safe under the high ball still. even though the pace he had as a youth has gone he is a total natural rugby player and still quality! And that's from a Leeds fan.
Roberts apart from 10 good games has been gash. Richards has been a good winger and nothing more. He had 1 awesome season last year but wellens has had plenty of them. Tomkins no doubt has bags of talent but looked all at sea down under and can't defend the goal line for toffee.
They all have different attributes but Wellens is still as good as any of those as a fullback if not better.
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| Quote ="Agent Mulder"Now now rogues - can't you wait until the season starts. He may not be as fast as some but he makes up for it in brain power. There is no better full back in SL than Wello at the moment. Running fast is helpful but you need a rugby brain to achieve being a good one. In that dept. we have Wello.'"
Bang on.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"If you had a choice for 2011 of Paul Wellens, Sam Tomkins, Pat Richards or Amos Roberts, who would you chose?'"
Brent Webb or Lee smith before those Wigan 3 and bjb before Roberts and Richards.
Tomkins isn't a fullback really he's a six. maguire just has to hide him there because he is weak link in defence. As good as he is he still has plenty to work on.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"If you had a choice for 2011 of Paul Wellens, Sam Tomkins, Pat Richards or Amos Roberts, who would you chose?'"
Are we talking about Amos "two good months in his Wigan career" Roberts who couldn't get out of your reserves come the end of last year?
Pat Richards a better fullback than Wellens?!
Give me a break.
If Tomkins achieves as much in his career as Paul Wellens has, he'll have had a stellar time in RL.
Wellens is the obvious choice as captain for Saints in 2011, regardless of how fast or slow Wigan fans may think he is.
I'm very much looking forward to Saints facing Wigan with a decent squad out and blowing their invincibility complex apart in 2011.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"If you had a choice for 2011 of Paul Wellens, Sam Tomkins, Pat Richards or Amos Roberts, who would you chose?'"
Sam Tomkins is clearly a stand off. Pat Richards is a winger. Amos Roberts is one part Jason Robinson, nine parts Leon Felton.
So, obviously, Paul Wellens.
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| Quote ="Dux"Amos Roberts is one part Jason Robinson, nine parts Leon Felton.'"
A truly marvellous analogy. I tip my cap to you, sir!
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| Quote ="Dux"Sam Tomkins is clearly a stand off. Pat Richards is a winger. Amos Roberts is one part Jason Robinson, nine parts Leon Felton.'"
Excellent.
Paul Wellens for me.
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| Paul Wellens for me- short term
Might take a punt on Sam but he isn't really a full back. Good breaks and quick, but his defence is shocking.
I am happy with B. Hodgeson next year though. Think he can add a lot.
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| If Paul Wellens is too slow for a fullback,it didn't stop him scoring 4 tries in one match against Wigan.
Wellens would be an ideal choice for captain.Has experience,respect and most importantly,is on the field for 80 mins
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| Wello for me. No pace but more than makes up for that with his positional sense and he is still the number one bomb disposal.
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| Wello Club Captain & Jammer On the Feild if he signs a new deal
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| Quote ="Dux"Sam Tomkins is clearly a stand off. Pat Richards is a winger. Amos Roberts is one part Jason Robinson, nine parts Leon Felton.
So, obviously, Paul Wellens.'"
Sorry Dux, you failed to say what Rogues is.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"If you had a choice for 2011 of Paul Wellens, Sam Tomkins, Pat Richards or Amos Roberts, who would you chose?'"
Paul Wellens has been a great fullback and still is one of the best fullbacks in super league even though he's lost most of his pace and ain't a huge threat with the ball these days but he makes up for that in other ways.
He's awesome in defence, best fullback under the high ball, always in postion and joins the line when he should do but his only weakness is clearing his own line.
In the short term i'd take wello over sam, pat and amos without a shadow of a doubt but in the long term i think sam tomkins will be the best fullback in super league and maybe one of the best in the world.
Pat Richards is a winger and Amos is crap.
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| Quote ="St pete"In the short term i'd take wello over sam.'"
So if theoretically Wigan offered Saints Tomkins for a year and in return got Wellens for a year you wouldn't want them to accept? Come on, obviously Sam Tomkins was a better player than Paul Wellens last season, never mind next season.
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| Quote ="andrewgt"although some posters on this thread seemed to have derailed it'" Hmm, a thread on the Saints board derailed to talking about Wigan players - which poster could that be?
Really Rogues, do you not get bored of that same old trick.
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