I don't know but they managed it



You kind of missed the point, the key word in my post was established. It takes any employer a while to judge an employees worth in the company.

DA was clearly thought of highly by the board and would probably still be at the club if he had not decided to go home for family reasons. I am sure that after a year or so he would have been "in the loop".

Mick Potter on the other hand was clearly pushed by the club as he stated that he was leaving for family reasons and then accepting a job in Bradford. I think he was given the choice to jump rather than be pushed which was a nice gesture from the club. I would be very surprised if Mick ever had an input into the hiring and firing.



How constructive.


At least say why you think that.

No dice, I'm afraid Noel.
Eamonn McManus doesn't employ a head coach at Saints because he hasn't got time to do the job himself, or has more important things to do. The head coach is the club's expert on rugby league.
Whilst the board will decide whether things are practical fanancially and fit to their long term plans for the club, the coach is the guy who (popular or not) knows the most about RL and his opinion counts for a lot. Unless he has proven not to be able to make the correct decision, which never happened to Potter, there's no way his voice wouldn't be heard.

But it wouldn't necessarily be acted upon.

I have no idea how players are chosen at Saints but I can't see the suggestions of the coach being taken on board with 100% enthusiasm, no matter who the coach is. The club and the coach will have different priorities and I should imagine the final say would go to the directors simply because they are managing the team long term.

I think Saints are managing the change in personnel well on the whole. Whether those we have let go will prove to be good decisions or poor ones only time will tell, but I certainly think those we have brought on board look like positive investments within the remit of saving money/developing British talent.

True. See Ellery Hanley vs Tommy Martyn.

True. The coach doesn't have to manage the salary cap, so will perhaps have a simpler veiw and will problably always desire more than can be actually delivered.

Mmm. Again, I agree. Strange





The power of "yes or no" will lie with whomever writes the cheques, but to think the head coach isn't involved at all's a bit daft.

Colquitt: Eamon, why don't we try and get that LMS from quins? His contract is up soon, seems a good player and we could do with more depth at prop.

McManus: Well, if we can get him for the right price, we should have a look at him. What does Potter think of him?

Colquitt: Who cares?

McManus: Oh yeah. Well, if you think he's the right guy, let's get him signed.

Obviously there's some no brainers, like the jamie lyon signing, but the coaches opinion's always going to be asked.

I know you are joking but I am pretty sure that is probably how it went with a few slight differences. Here is my go...

Colquitt: Eamon, why don't we try and get that LMS from quins? His contract is up soon, seems a good player and we could do with more depth at prop.

McManus: Well, if we can get him for the right price, we should have a look at him. What does Potter think of him?

Colquitt: OK Mike what do you think of Louie?

Potter: I like Ponies

Colquitt: That reminds me I need to ring Qantas this week. They have an offer on one way tickets.

McManus: Lets go to Rushs office and ask him.

PMSL - Coffee all over the keyboard!