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| Some of the lunatics on here were comparing him to Sculthorpe not long ago. I like the bloke, but I can only assume that the people saying he was as good as Scully were either senile, or never saw him in his prime.
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| Maybe Potter didn't bring out the best in his game, who knows. But the new coach is gonna shake things up a bit, and there's a good number of kids coming through...so if he's still in that team next year then that'll be 4 coaches(as well as Smith & Noble at International level) who have seen something in him that warrants his place in the team. Personally, I like him. Clever player...maybe lacks the size (in crap weather) & natural aggression but we do seem to miss him when he's out injured.
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| Speaking to hull fans yesterday and they rave about wilkin and would love him at at their club!!! I laughed at them and said I would gladly pay his taxi fair back to Hull. I've never rated the guy and I personally hate his guts!!
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| Wilkin is by far the worst player in the club, he's full of it ! he should do the honorable thing and go write a book on how crap he's been these last two years.
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"Send him home to East Hull.
We will take him anytime soon'"
Gladly-you can have him
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| Quote ="St pete"Pryce staying here but i'd swap wilkin for worrincey.
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Come on Wilkin is not THAT bad.
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| get a grips Saints (again)
he is an important part of a team that has got you to the grand final (again) despite you not having your first choice half back partnership for a good portion of the season! FFS.
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| Quote ="cjhatesunion"Come on Wilkin is not THAT bad.'"
he is mate, i would like to see him in handcuffs led away by the good rugby police
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"He's looked like Mr Average all year IMO.'"
He's looked below average for that last 3yrs.
He's not worth the wedge he will be getting paid, if hull kr want him then let him go.
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| Is it just me or has nobody pointed out what a pudding Flannery was. Was rounded twice by Tomkins and Leuleui. While he was also at fault in defence for the first try. He was definately targetted and exposed by Wigan.
Wilkin still seems to be stuggling with his shoulder/neck injury. I think he actually had a reasonable game given his poor form recently. I just wish that he would use the time he writes articles and blogging on becoming the player he should be. He is not a bad player but he should be a hell of a lot better at this point of his career.
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| Quote ="Noel Cleal"Is it just me or has nobody pointed out what a pudding Flannery was. '"
I noticed, but he wasn't at fault for the first try. However, he probably played his worst game of the season last night.
Quote Wilkin still seems to be stuggling with his shoulder/neck injury. I think he actually had a reasonable game given his poor form recently. I just wish that he would use the time he writes articles and blogging on becoming the player he should be. He is not a bad player but he should be a hell of a lot better at this point of his career.'"
Wilkin was better last week when he wasn't playing at 6. Why Potter continued to play him at 6 when he is not a 6 is something I don't even what to think about now. But while Wilkin hasn't found anything like his form prior to his injury, I do think he would have done a better job for us playing in the position he is made to play in rather than one he just can't play.
I'd like to see our new coach remind Wilkin of what a great little interceptor he used to be. We haven't seen him intercept for two seasons.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"I noticed, but he wasn't at fault for the first try. However, he probably played his worst game of the season last night.
Wilkin was better last week when he wasn't playing at 6. Why Potter continued to play him at 6 when he is not a 6 is something I don't even what to think about now. But while Wilkin hasn't found anything like his form prior to his injury, I do think he would have done a better job for us playing in the position he is made to play in rather than one he just can't play.
I'd like to see our new coach remind Wilkin of what a great little interceptor he used to be. We haven't seen him intercept for two seasons.'"
Lets hope next time he does intercept that andy coley ain't there to chase him down and catch him!
I thought he was classed as being pretty fast for a backrow!
So he's to small for the pack, average pair of hands and no pace but runs good lines.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Wilkin was better last week when he wasn't playing at 6. Why Potter continued to play him at 6 when he is not a 6 is something I don't even what to think about now.'"
Wilkin was named at 6 but clearly played second row/loose forward with Jonny Lomax at 6.
The excuse of 'not being a 6' isn't applicable for last nights performance.
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| Wilkin was far from our worst player, that goes to Lomax without a doubt, he just couldn't defend, and his defence in that first 20 minutes effectively cost us the game. I'm not saying you can blame one player for losing, but Wilkin was far from our biggest problem.
I thought Wilkin tried hard last night to make something happen, which is more than what can be said for a lot of them. Wellens, Wilkin and Roby all did OK, IMO.
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| Quote ="saint billy"Wilkin was far from our worst player, that goes to Lomax without a doubt, he just couldn't defend, and his defence in that first 20 minutes effectively cost us the game. I'm not saying you can blame one player for losing, but Wilkin was far from our biggest problem.
I thought Wilkin tried hard last night to make something happen, which is more than what can be said for a lot of them. Wellens, Wilkin and Roby all did OK, IMO.'"
It's not just a case of last night with wilkin tho mate, he's been shocking for about 3/4 years now.
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| Quote ="St pete"It's not just a case of last night with wilkin tho mate, he's been shocking for about 3/4 years now.'"
He's not been shocking, i think thats very harsh. I'm a fan of Wilkin tbh, but we have a lot of players, including the youngsters who are coming through, who are not big enough or fast enough to cause the opposition any real threat and i think that could probably be said of Wilkin. Wilkin however has a good rugby brain, if only he was a foot taller and a stone heavier or 3 yards faster, but that can be said about quite a few in our team.
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| Quote ="saint billy"He's not been shocking, i think thats very harsh. I'm a fan of Wilkin tbh, but we have a lot of players, including the youngsters who are coming through, who are not big enough or fast enough to cause the opposition any real threat and i think that could probably be said of Wilkin. Wilkin however has a good rugby brain, if only he was a foot taller and a stone heavier or 3 yards faster, but that can be said about quite a few in our team.'"
Do you think wilkin is much better than clough, dixon or ashurst ?
I used to be wilkins biggest fan, he was my fave player but i saw a change in him, he became a big time charlie, he believed all the hype.
If he put the effort in to playing rugby like he does with his media work then he would improve a great deal.
We all know he's looking forward for when he retires but first he needs to give his all tpo the club and the fans that pay this big time charlie is wages.
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| Quote ="cjhatesunion"Come on Wilkin is not THAT bad.'"
nobody is
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| Quote ="St pete"Do you think wilkin is much better than clough, dixon or ashurst ?
I used to be wilkins biggest fan, he was my fave player but i saw a change in him, he became a big time charlie, he believed all the hype.
If he put the effort in to playing rugby like he does with his media work then he would improve a great deal.
We all know he's looking forward for when he retires but first he needs to give his all tpo the club and the fans that pay this big time charlie is wages.'"
I do think he is better than Clough, Dixon and Ashurst yes. Wilkin works as hard as those players in defence, makes more yards in attack (apart from maybe Clough) and also offers something in terms of creativity and versatility to the team.
I do however think that Wilkin had the potential to be a world class player, but he didn't progress and reach his maximum potential, but that doesn't mean hes a rubbish player. I don't blame him for doing a bit of media aside from Rugby at the end of the day he needs to look after himself and hes making sure he has something he can do when his career is over, and thats fair enough, IMO. I know what your saying though, maybe he has believed the hype, or maybe a coach has pulled him to one side and told him he needs to focus on his defence more, hence taking something in attack out of his game, who knows. As i've said, we have a lot of players that like size and speed, they don't have one or the other, there just in between somewhere, and Wilkin is one of those players.
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| Quote ="saint billy"I do think he is better than Clough, Dixon and Ashurst yes. Wilkin works as hard as those players in defence, makes more yards in attack (apart from maybe Clough) and also offers something in terms of creativity and versatility to the team.
I do however think that Wilkin had the potential to be a world class player, but he didn't progress and reach his maximum potential, but that doesn't mean hes a rubbish player. I don't blame him for doing a bit of media aside from Rugby at the end of the day he needs to look after himself and hes making sure he has something he can do when his career is over, and thats fair enough, IMO. I know what your saying though, maybe he has believed the hype, or maybe a coach has pulled him to one side and told him he needs to focus on his defence more, hence taking something in attack out of his game, who knows. As i've said, we have a lot of players that like size and speed, they don't have one or the other, there just in between somewhere, and Wilkin is one of those players.'"
To be fair, it's hard to compare clough and wilkin as clough is more a prop style player.
I don't think the is much between dixon and wilkin apart from wilkin is a so called big name.
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| Quote ="St pete"To be fair, it's hard to compare clough and wilkin as clough is more a prop style player.
I don't think the is much between dixon and wilkin apart from wilkin is a so called big name.'"
I agree with Clough, it is difficult to compare.
The stats between the two favour Wilkin quite considerably tbh.
[url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2010&hp1=1043&hs2=2010&hp2=2519&stat=tries&season=2010Wilkin V Dixon[/url
Apart from Penalties and Errors, everything else is easily in Wilkins favour.
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| Quote ="saint billy"I agree with Clough, it is difficult to compare.
The stats between the two favour Wilkin quite considerably tbh.
[url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2010&hp1=1043&hs2=2010&hp2=2519&stat=tries&season=2010Wilkin V Dixon[/url
Apart from Penalties and Errors, everything else is easily in Wilkins favour.'"
The stats do go in wilkin favour but i think wilkin has done alot more mins than dixon.
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| Quote ="Chief Scout"I hate the guy!
Up his own borrom and a awfull rugby league player! Please leave our club as soon as possible!!'"
I think he's a rubbish rugby league player but a little harsh to say you hate him.
I don't hate him, i just think he's crap.
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| Quote ="Noel Cleal"Is it just me or has nobody pointed out what a pudding Flannery was. Was rounded twice by Tomkins and Leuleui. While he was also at fault in defence for the first try. He was definately targetted and exposed by Wigan.
Wilkin still seems to be stuggling with his shoulder/neck injury. I think he actually had a reasonable game given his poor form recently. I just wish that he would use the time he writes articles and blogging on becoming the player he should be. He is not a bad player but he should be a hell of a lot better at this point of his career.'"
Yes I pointed it out earlier in this thread:
Quote Thought he was chronic tonight. No pace, no ideas.
There were two worse players than him tonight though:
1. Flannery. Got to be the slowest player on the pitch when the goons scored their third try he had made a tackle but couldn't be arrised getting up - he just stayed on the floor while the rest of the team were trying to get the defensive line sorted.Then they scored.
2. Meli "am I playng centre or wing? sod it I'll do something in between instead" followed by "who was that going past me"
Back to wilkin. He only got a bit better when he lost the plot over silverfool's increasingly bizarre decisions. '"
When I got back to warry the two main things everyone in my local said were how slow flanno was and also how inconsistant silverwood was. That was my view also.
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