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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Spot on. However, Rogues just wants to get in how Wigan have had six million players missing this year but have had no credit for it and so why are Saints talking about missing players. Coz the poor ole crusties have had a much, much harder time and hey, look, they're top.
Except, of course, they haven't had 11 players out at the same time at any time, meaning that they are down to playing an 18 year old scrum half on his debut with wingers playing as centres and second rowers playing as props and centres and wingers.'"
For someone who is "supposed" to be studying to be an English teacher, what part of Who Else do you not understand.
I pointed out the players missing from last nights Wigan team. Or did they play?
Please do not apply for a post in Billinge.
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| Quote ="WireWireWire"I do have to applaud how well a saints team plays together no matter what position or combination of 17. You have a knack of just making things stick and work out. Like tonight, whenever a saints player threw the ball to ground, another saints player picked up for them, yet whenever we threw the ball to the floor, a saints player dropped on it first.'"
It's not like that every week mate, believe me, we've looked shocking at times this year.
Just all seemed to click tonight, wolves seem to have the ability to lose the game against us. Bombed some chances tonight.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Fozzard played in the U20's, Dean, Wheeler and Lomax wouldn't be in your first choice 17.
But if you want to play silly games, here goes.
Phelps, Roberts, Pryce, O'Carroll, McIlorum, Prescott and Bailey were all missing from the Wigan team last night.'"
Hypocrisy defined but no surprise from you.
Nobody on here cares about Wigan other than they are important to a strong SL - we don't care about who you have missing or whatever and neither does Michael McGuire - one iota, and any more than you do when we have a weakened team. We never have done so stop drawing irrelevant and pathetic comparisons merely aimed at reducing your age induced boredom and trying to wind up teenagers. Your presence on this board when posting objective, reasoned debate, is welcomed.
Your presence on this board when being an obstructive, Wigan apologist is laughable so when you are in the mood where you think you are a genuine troll be aware that, to all but the 13 - 17 year olds who don't know any better, you're more transparent than a sheet of K-Glass and an object of utter ridicule. For example I couldn't go to the game tonight either - it doesn't make me any less of a Saints fan. The tattoo on my back will tell you so.
Do one Brian - you're becoming as boring as Father Ted.
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| Quote ="St pete"Lomax has missed most of the season.
Ade has missed alot of the season.
Foster not played all that much really.
We've had a few wingers this year, meli, ade, foster, lomax, armstrong and dean all played wing this year.'"
The point is though, the OP believed it was 8 or 9 1st teamers missing from what would be your strongest 17, it isn't. It's more like 6, which as I said is still a fine performance. But it's nothing to get giddy or excited about when every team goes through the same. It's called having a good squad, not just 1-17 which is what we can say both Wigan and Saints have in great quality. I think Wire would be looking a couple places down the ladder if the same was for them.
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| Quote ="Allez"Hypocrisy defined but no surprise from you.
Nobody on here cares about Wigan other than they are important to a strong SL - we don't care about who you have missing or whatever and neither does Michael McGuire - one iota, and any more than you do when we have a weakened team. We never have done so stop drawing irrelevant and pathetic comparisons merely aimed at reducing your age induced boredom and trying to wind up teenagers. Your presence on this board when posting objective, reasoned debate, is welcomed.
Your presence on this board when being an obstructive, Wigan apologist is laughable so when you are in the mood where you think you are a genuine troll be aware that, to all but the 13 - 17 year olds who don't know any better, you're more transparent than a sheet of K-Glass and an object of utter ridicule. For example I couldn't go to the game tonight either - it doesn't make me any less of a Saints fan. The tattoo on my back will tell you so.
Do one Brian - you're becoming as boring as Father Ted.'"
Surely if someone asks "Who else" which is a question (or was when I went to school) you should expect a reply.
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"The point is though, the OP believed it was 8 or 9 1st teamers missing from what would be your strongest 17, it isn't. It's more like 6, which as I said is still a fine performance. But it's nothing to get giddy or excited about when every team goes through the same. It's called having a good squad, not just 1-17 which is what we can say both Wigan and Saints have in great quality. I think Wire would be looking a couple places down the ladder if the same was for them.'"
I never said at any time we had 8 or 9 missing.
I won't be getting giddy over beating warrington, it's two points at the end of the day.
What it shows IMO, we can go anywhere in the play offs with players out and with players playing out of postion and win.
It was a tough game a week before our semi next week against leeds.
Im sure wigan will have a good rest next week, wish us luck.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Surely if someone asks "Who else" which is a question (or was when I went to school) you should expect a reply.'"
Except that it was obviously laced with sarcasm and 'bait'
The lame response indicates you get the point I am making. If you want to be a troll go learn from the best before coming back. Otherwise stick to rugby and opinions, yours as valid as anyone's, rather than being a 4th rate troll.
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| Quote ="St pete"I never said at any time we had 8 or 9 missing.
I won't be getting giddy over beating warrington, it's two points at the end of the day.
What it shows IMO, we can go anywhere in the play offs with players out and with players playing out of postion and win.
It was a tough game a week before our semi next week against leeds.
Im sure wigan will have a good rest next week, wish us luck.'"
I know you didn't but the original poster made it out as if the other players would have been starting in the 17 from the start of the year. For the record I do hope you win next week, Leeds shown last night if they are losing they can only result into thuggery. Something that couldn't have been said for Saints after tonights performance. They tried the same dirty tactics against you at KR in the league game and you hammered them. If they do the same I predict a Saints win by 8-14 points.
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"I know you didn't but the original poster made it out as if the other players would have been starting in the 17 from the start of the year. For the record I do hope you win next week, Leeds shown last night if they are losing they can only result into thuggery. Something that couldn't have been said for Saints after tonights performance. They tried the same dirty tactics against you at KR in the league game and you hammered them. If they do the same I predict a Saints win by 8-14 points.'"
Every saints fan will be over the moon with the win against warrington today but we won't be getting all giddy and carried away with OTT comments.
That reminds me, has wane got the key to the town yet for his awesome coaching of wigan over the last.....2 weeks?
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Wrong. Wheeler was our first choice centre this season. Are you blind? Because that was said by a couple of posters.
We aren't talking about Wigan tonight. So go away.'"
When is someone going to ban this troll RG?
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| Quote ="Allez"Except that it was obviously laced with sarcasm and 'bait'
The lame response indicates you get the point I am making. If you want to be a troll go learn from the best before coming back. Otherwise stick to rugby and opinions, yours as valid as anyone's, rather than being a 4th rate troll.'"
I'm glad you respect my opinions, and of course they are no more valid than every one elses. i love good debate,
However, a question was asked to which I replied. I don't think it was "obviously laced with sarcasm and 'bait'" .
Some Saints fans loved it.
And to Saints fan here are some facts.
Meli and Gardner have appeared far more as a wing partnership this season at Saints rather than her first choice of Lomax and Foster.
What is amusing is that I haven't slagged Saints performance off at all. I thought it was a great game, in which the result was good for Wigan.
Thank you.
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| Quote ="Rocketman"When is someone going to ban this troll RG?'"
What for?
Are we all not allowed an opinion?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"What for?
Are we all not allowed an opinion?'"
Not you.
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| Quote ="Rocketman"Not you.'"
Well maybe it's you who should learn some diplomacy.
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| Guys, there are no such things as injuries. Its all in the mind. It just means you dont have the mental toughness to play rugby.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"What for?
Are we all not allowed an opinion?'"
Yes.
Except your sell by date is well past as your 'opinions' are thinly disguised and pathetic attempts at wind ups.
So either stop coming on here and being a *nob or don't come on at all. And don't play innocent - Ian Millward did that and still got sacked.
Rather than 'diplomacy' maybe you just need to learn when your time is up.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Well maybe it's you who should learn some diplomacy.'"
You seem to have an opinion on everything, but only comment about the one you think you can get a rise out of.
What was the comment about me getting home early for? (on another thread). Have you not got an opinion of the ref? or is it that you agree with Saints fans on that one so dont bother.
If I tried your antics on the Wigan board I would be banned. IMO you a troll and a poor one and should be sent on your way.
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| Whenever RG comes giving us his "opinions", I cant but help to think back when he shouted from the roof tops about how Micheal McIllorum was going to be a GB international for years to come, taking Roby's shirt. Or that Kyle Eastmond was 100% leaving Saints to go to Sale. Ergo, his opinions mean nothing.
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| Quote ="Allez"Yes.
=#FF4000Except your sell by date is well past as your 'opinions' are thinly disguised and pathetic attempts at wind ups.
So either stop coming on here and being a *nob or don't come on at all. And don't play innocent - Ian Millward did that and still got sacked.
Rather than 'diplomacy' maybe you just need to learn when your time is up.'"
If you are so insecure to believe that is true, than that's even better.
Anyone on here who knows me will tell you that I always call thing as I see them. There are no hidden agendas, and I "discuss" RL on other boards just as I do here.
I don't have a problem with anyone not agreeing with me, we're all different. However I do like someone to explain why rather than just accuse me of trolling.
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| Quote ="Saint_Marc"Whenever RG comes giving us his "opinions", I cant but help to think back when he shouted from the roof tops about how Micheal McIllorum was going to be a GB international for years to come, taking Roby's shirt. Or that Kyle Eastmond was 100% leaving Saints to go to Sale. Ergo, his opinions mean nothing.'"
Neither of those statements are correct.
I challenge you to prove them.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"If you are so insecure to believe that is true, than that's even better.
Anyone on here who knows me will tell you that I always call thing as I see them. There are no hidden agendas, and I "discuss" RL on other boards just as I do here.
I don't have a problem with anyone not agreeing with me, we're all different. However I do like someone to explain why rather than just accuse me of trolling.'"
Give over, you love a heated debate, you try your best to make a heated debate.
God help your mrs, it must be murder living with you
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| Quote ="St pete"Give over, you love a heated debate, you try your best to make a heated debate.
God help your mrs, it must be murder living with you
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I do.
And she does.
But she is from St. Helens ( I was a missionary)
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"( I was a missionary)
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| Brian you're such a tool, half the players missing for you played in the reserves!
The answer to the question is in fact NONE! No other teams have had to cope with 7-8 players all out for the majority of the season, in the last two months it's been two out, two in etc.
Yes injuries are part and parcel of the game for which we've endured the most hence the game time the likes of Ashurst, Dixon, and now Magennis are getting. I put the likes of Dean in that list because with Sia and Gidley injured a Dean or Wheeler would play. We went to Wire without a centre, and still won.
Incidentally IMO, Lomax has shown enough to play ahead of Gardner and Wheeler would start also but has been held back by injuries.
1. Wellens
2. Lomax
3. Gidley
4. Wheeler
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Nb Fozzard is injured, didn't play in the reserves yesterday afternoon, I watched it. Dixon did and wasn't in my list. Hard to take RG a win of that quality with so many ommisions, but show some class, envy is an ugly thing
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| Only Phelps and Roberts played in the reserves, both playing their first games back after injury (Phelps went off injured again)
Wigan had three U20 qualified players in the pack on Friday.
Fozzard played in the Saints reserves at Wakefield last week.
Saints have only used one more player than Wigan this season, and there are teams who have worse injury situations than either of us.
BTW what was the result of the U20's game?
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