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| Quote ="Father Jack"agree with that but could you tell me last time pryce or faasavalu did anythink'"
Faasavalu came on and did a good run and that was it, he's poorer than (not so) fat Feka. I hope that he and Pryce dont let the RU see their videos of tonight for their sakes or they may have to stay with us
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| Quote ="Saddened!"I wasn't far off with the prediction for tonight. It was clear once Hull's recruitment was complete how things would go tonight. Tonight wasn't a shock, they have a stronger team than us, faster backs and bigger forwards. Unless something goes massively wrong there they are in for a great season. I think they will be my second second team after Catalans, I love their fans and hope they can win something this season.
This time was always going to come when the modern greats left and the team had to be rebuilt. McManus and co haven't made that good a job of it so far. The choice of coach was poor and the lack of investment in players over the last few years is now coming home to roost. If the rot that has been allowed to set in is related to cutting back because of the stadium investment I'm okay with that, but I'd like them to admit it.
You lot will probably deny it and claim we're still headed for Old Trafford, but the truth is that we are now in a large group of teams scrambling for position in the play offs. Leeds, Warrington, Hull, Hull KR, Huddersfield, Wigan, Catalans and Wakefield. There are a lot of very good sides in SL now, all of which have recruited better than us for three or four years now. I'd be delighted with a top 6 finish this year personally, satisfied with top 8. I can't see us winning many against those teams mentioned away from home and trips to places like Cas and Salford are hardly going to be easy for us either.
Which brings me nicely onto good old Harry. Why is he there? Finding his replacement has got to be the big priority in terms of playing matters this season. Another sub-20 points score for us, again failing to do it at home. His influence on the squad is now complete, all of Anderson's plays are gone and everything we do is down to Harry. To make the play offs we are going to have to improve our defense massively as we're going to be averaging around 12 points per game. The excuse a lot of people used was that he was here because of his skills in building a squad. But there is no investment into the squad so that cannot be why he was brought in. Sport is cyclical to a degree and we are about 5 or 6 years overdue a lean spell, but it just seems we are not putting as much effort into it as could be as a club.'"
I agree! Ive been saying the same thing for last 2yrs about our squad recruitment.
IMO this is the worst squad i've seen in my time of watching saints. We are slow,boring and lack any idea in attack. Im not a coach but its pretty obvious we are in urgent need of a ball playing halfback as eastmond and pryce aint going to work and IMO pryce for whatever reason isnt good enough anymore.
On the subject of potter, ive stuck up for him all last year but starting to lose faith in him now. We have no plan A never mind plan B! Its boring one man rugby as it was for most of last year.
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| was quite surprised how poor Saints were last night, yes there are some good signs for us (FC) and Fitz had a stormer, but whats gone on at Saints, the "elder statesmen" have been allowed (or encouraged) to move on and haven't been replaced, you brought Fozzard back from KR and he was average.
I don't want to play Wakefield/Huddersfield in semi-finals/finals, we want the fans of Saints with us, and the best, most skillfull side, winning.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"I honestly thought Flannery was one of your better players tonight.'"
Flannery will always work hard and give 100% but he's just not good enough in a pack like we have. The backrow IMO is very very poor.
Flannery, wilkin, ashurst, dixon, clough and tony p are the backrows but none are good enough. Tony p is a good player but IMO will never make a 2nd row or loose as long as he lives.
All the backrow named above all work hard but we get nothing from them in attack.
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| Quote ="St pete"Flannery will always work hard and give 100% but he's just not good enough in a pack like we have. The backrow IMO is very very poor.
Flannery, wilkin, ashurst, dixon, clough and tony p are the backrows but none are good enough. Tony p is a good player but IMO will never make a 2nd row or loose as long as he lives.
All the backrow named above all work hard but we get nothing from them in attack.'"
To be fair, Puletua is a prop, and a good prop at that. Potter is using him in the wrong way, which compounds our need for a quality backrowe to compliment Flannery's workrate.
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| Quote ="Rughead"To be fair, Puletua is a prop, and a good prop at that. Potter is using him in the wrong way, which compounds our need for a quality backrowe to compliment Flannery's workrate.'"
Potter is using a few players in the wrong way. I don't think he knows what to do.
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| Quote ="Rughead"To be fair, Puletua is a prop, and a good prop at that. Potter is using him in the wrong way, which compounds our need for a quality backrowe to compliment Flannery's workrate.'"
That's what I'm saying! Tony p is a prop and a good one at that.
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| Quote ="Blobbynator"Our pack made more metres than any other team last year and it hasn't changed.
The problem is definitely with the backs. We have a slow full back, slow wingers, a 2nd rower at Centre and a half back who hasn't played well for a year.'"
Nail on the head. I don't think Flannery is worth a quota spot, but besides that we are good in most other areas.
I was a bit gutted when we didn't sign a monstrous, no-nonsense prop but if I had to choose between one and a new stadium I know which one I'd choose.
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| Quote ="Father Jack"i think wellens is too slow gardener pryce and faasavalu have no heart and havnt played well for two years and flannery been one of our worse singings i really feel for graham playing with them and potter who just boring'"
Singings? OH you mean signings.
I'm a bit biased towards Legohead but even the Flanno-bashers may admit that calling him "one of our worst singings/signings" is a bit harsh.
He put points on the board on Saturday night, which is more than 90% of the side he was playing in did.
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| Quote ="St pete"Flannery will always work hard and give 100% but he's just not good enough in a pack like we have. The backrow IMO is very very poor.
Flannery, wilkin, ashurst, dixon, clough and tony p are the backrows but none are good enough. Tony p is a good player but IMO will never make a 2nd row or loose as long as he lives.
All the backrow named above all work hard but we get nothing from them in attack.'"
Thank you.
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| I agree with Saddened. I'll be happy with top 6 this year, if Friday is anything to go by.
Flannery works hard but still one Aussie too many
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"might be time for you to take that warrington top out the wardrobe, dust it down, and come on down to the HJ
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Is that one still on the pitch that the disgruntled wire fan threw on as he stormed out of a Saints wire game in disgust?
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| Tony P [iis[/i a second rower, and I thought he had his better games for us last year in the back row. Unfortunately there isn't enough grunt in the pack and I think he'd be better utilised in the front row at this moment in time. I'd also move Soliola in the pack and play Wheeler at centre, but I thought that before Saturday.
Fozzard was a desperate signing really, we needed another body at prop, but who was available? How many clubs have signed good props this year? There's a dearth of good props available in the game, even the NRL. Would Wests have given a player who'd barely played in SL for two years a contract if there were other options? It's ok saying we should have signed someone else, but who was there to sign? No one, especially not one we could afford.
Flannery for me has not performed and has not been a good signing. He came with a big reputation after having played SOO, but for me hasn't offered anything Bennett didn't and has probably come in at twice the cost (at least). I'd agree with him being a waste of a quota spot, he's similar to Hooper for me in that if he was English I'd have no real problem with him being a squad man, but he's not and I expect more of imports.
Pryce also needs to step up to the plate, can he do it? The jury's out for me, I didn't think he was as bad last year as some made out, but this is a big year for him to shoulder some responsibility. I still don't think a half back combination of Eastmond and Wheeler is experienced enough to drive this team round the pitch, and may do them more harm than good expecting them to. Perhaps drop Moore to half back and play him and Eastmond? Bring Smith back and use him? Not Wilkin though, he's not good enough for half back and is too inconsistent in his kicking to be doing it too often.
On Long, I wonder if he'll play as well as he did again this season. He had a point to prove on Saturday, let's see if he can keep that level up for a full season, because he didn't for us for the last two years.
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| With regards to Leon, he never really nailed down the stand-off spot at Bradford when he was given the chance in 2003 and we (Bradford) won everything that year. He only plays well when his pack is going forwards and he has another half to do the directing of play. He's a broken field/line runner, not an organiser or play maker.
With the exception of Leeds (their time will come) most sides/squads are starting to level out. You're starting to go through what we at Bradford did about 4 years ago with the great side you have had starting to break up but not replacing them with players of equal stature / quality.
You can't replace people like Scully and Long who were the fulcrum of everything you did (and world class players to boot) with kids like Eastmond, however much promise they have.
If Saturday was anything to go buy, get ready for not only a long season, but a long couple of years. The Warringtons and Huddersfields of our world are likely to get their moments in the sun a bit more often.
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| Quote ="Bradford Badger"With regards to Leon, he never really nailed down the stand-off spot at Bradford when he was given the chance in 2003 and we (Bradford) won everything that year. He only plays well when his pack is going forwards and he has another half to do the directing of play. He's a broken field/line runner, not an organiser or play maker.
With the exception of Leeds (their time will come) most sides/squads are starting to level out. You're starting to go through what we at Bradford did about 4 years ago with the great side you have had starting to break up but not replacing them with players of equal stature / quality.
You can't replace people like Scully and Long who were the fulcrum of everything you did (and world class players to boot) with kids like Eastmond, however much promise they have.
If Saturday was anything to go buy, get ready for not only a long season, but a long couple of years. The Warringtons and Huddersfields of our world are likely to get their moments in the sun a bit more often.'"
Which can only be good for the game
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| Quote ="ExiledWool"Which can only be good for the game'"
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| Quote ="Harry Pinner"Is that one still on the pitch that the disgruntled wire fan threw on as he stormed out of a Saints wire game in disgust?'"
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Of course its the same shirt.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Bollox to that!'"
Look, the '80's seems to be in vogue at the moment so we at Saints should show we are at the forefront of revivals and play like we did back then.
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| I think Hull beat us on the edges, not up the middle. There's something there about organisation and understanding, not necessarily skill, size or speed.
And to echo what's been said on many threads: Hull were phenomenal, we didn't give it to them.
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