oh, it was the one at widnes. not that that is much of an excuse.

Deluded!

I would agree with the comments about holding down at the tackle. Much of the Huddersfield defence this season was based on 3-4 men 'wrestle type' tackles followed by each man then slowly taking turns rolling off the tackled player, thus allowing the defence to re-form. Referees seem prepared to allow teams to do this rather than go for quick play the balls.

very good points you make, i would never want a return to playing leeds 4 times a season.. my point is genuinely about the standard of superleague, and the quality of matches.. another poster states about the situation with regards to huddersfield, our matches against them have been close, but boring as hell..

with all the leeds fans saying 'it's so saints have more of a chance' with the pace in leeds outside backs, a quicker play of the ball would probably make them a better team anyway..

the petition was not a way of making superleague better for saints, but for more attacking play throughout the league

All too often we are seeing tries scored by building of pressure, and tries from within 10 yards, or attacking kicks


And .......

There a problem with that ? If you don't want to see tries scored like that go watch football instead.. muppet .

I'd rather see free flowing, length of the field tries and I'm sure most people would. The flair seems have to have gone from most teams and this has been gradually happening for the last 3 or 4 years now, the speed of the game is extremely slow. Catalans were the only team to bring any entertainment to the Play Offs IMO.

a quick ptb doesn't develop the game! Teams, esecially halfbacks don't learn how to brake down defences! teams and players will become better! ultimately the game will improve! That's the idea anyway imo!

The RFL had the right idea, they just did it wrong. The PTB speed is [itoo[/i slow and the skill level has gone down. Most teams seem to rely on brute force moreso than they ever did.

we do at our club



not our team!

now we've got all that fun and games from earlier out the way, you now make sense.. i have no doubt that is the reason why the rugby league are doing it, but is it worth losing 35 weeks of the regular season, for the sake off possibly competing on the international stage..

from what i have heard, the NRL has once again sped up the play the balls, and is far more entertaining than superleague

I must have missed them in the Grand Final. Apart from the odd few, I didn't see that many on the TV games I saw Leeds in either.

yes the nrl is much quicker! Their game was a lot slower than ours is now! the 2 ref system brings it's own problems but has made there game more entertaining.

off the top of my head

hull kr away
Wigan at home
hull kr at home
Catalan at the magic
Catalan play off's
Huddersfield at home
Bradford at home
castleford at home
hull kr n the play offs
hull fc away
Celtic away
Quins away

but I accept that there arnt as many as previous but I don't think that is a bad thing. I do think teams ate getting better and the comp is tighter!

I'm not trolling when I say this but I can see how it would be frustrating for saints fans as you seem to lack the ability to go the length of the field. as has been said in this thread already, most teams will feel they have a chance of beating you if they can kick deep into your half and keep the pens down.

They were boring me before the PTB was slowed down.

Oooorrrr bless!

Why would slowing the PTB down reduce the skill in Rugby League? I'm interested to know. Genuinely.

Because, just playing Devil's advocate here, but if you make it too [ieasy[/i to make metres from a constantly retreating defensive line, wouldn't that vastly reduce the skill in the game?

Perhaps you could petition the RFL to stop it raining in October?

You didnt watch the Leeds v Catalan Semi-final then

Slowing the PTB down will achieve, in time exactly the opposite. It will improve the quality of the game.

No longer will teams march up field with scoots from dummy half against a defence that cannot be set. It was getting like basketball. Roby was the games best player tother year. A failed half back who was nippy out of dummy half coming off the bench. Says it all.

But how long will this revolution take? If it carries on like last season, who will watch it?

And you may need to inform the teams of the plans, as none of them are attempting to do anything to break down defenses, preferring the safety of 5 drives and a kick and applying pressure. Yawn.

as has been said already! Leeds have played some great attacking rugby in 07,08 and 09! Our attack has got better under bluey imo. I've also seen great attacking play from other teams in 09! I enjoyed this season very much! For me the comp is tighter than ever!

Again I'm not trolling but I think it's fair to say it's no suprise that the fans of the team that benefits the least from a slower play the ball are complaining the most!

I find it ironic that now the interpritation of the rules don't play into your hands as they did previous you are sending the rfl a pertition to change the rules!

you claim your on some crusade to save the game! when most fans of most clubs feel the comp is as open as it's ever been and was the best sl so far! As a Leeds fan watching my team and as a neutral watching sky I can honestly say I didn't once think it was boring!

as saints fans you keep going on about 5 drives and a kick! but it is a corner stone of our game and a must at times, to be honest I wish Leeds did it more at times instead of throwing it around so much! but from the outside looking in I think the 5 drives and a kick is an issue you have with the saints coaching staff!

you were more than happy with 5 scoots and a kick or 5 scoots and 5 attempts to milk a penalty.

nothing do with fact wire bradford hull wernt in playoffs? who would of all had alot more fans than huddesfield and catalans

You're watching the wrong team .

Entertainment is a purely subjective thing. Certainly not transferrable across all frames of reference.

But if you are asking me - are you sick of Leeds and Saints playing out each and every GF then the answer is yes.

Not at Leeds. We've played some quality stuff this year.

I think this thread simply displays the arrogance of fans of "the mighty S". Their team is going through a transition, their new coach has introduced a more rigid style of play and all of a sudden we need a petition to change the way the game is played.

Get over yourselves. You really are just a small town in Wigan who have over-achieved during the Sl era. You're not all that.