Agree.

If Eastmond is only interested in money - despite not yet having developed a worth for it - then he's probably not the right man for the job anyway.

But a decision needs to arrive - sooner rather than later.

Saints should not break the bank as we no he has potential but he's not commanded any games for us yet


Yes a few bits of magic here and there but not as good as say young Tompkins yet


And if he does not sign a contract we should look to someone else for next year and let him play reserve rugby (little upstart)

Tell that to the MEN.

The RFL and clubs need to come up with some sort of initative to save the young British players being poaching i.e Myler & Ashton at Northampton and Smith at Wasps...

Players like Westerman, Eastmond, Tomkins, Myler, Burgess, Hall etc... need to be protected and kept within Rugby League... we need our priorities in order... GET YOUR WALLETS OUT SAINTS!

For technicalities substitute kicking.

As gut wrenching as it seems, its folly to throw stupid money at him when he's still unproven, regardless of his potential. If a RU club (many of whom are reportadly struggling financially) want to spend extra to poach the odd talent, then let them. There'll be another Kyle eastmond.

With you all the way, we don't want to be held ransom by an agent, if he thinks he can do better than what has been offered (trust in Mc) crack on fella, go and get it, [unobody is bigger than our club[/u.

I would be relatively happy with Moore at 7 for a season, before moving to 9 when the King goes. Eastmond certainly can't play any important role within the team if he's on his way. Moore has also yet to commit beyond 2010 though...

I really don't know what the fuss is, it's just an agent trying to get the best deal for his client. The agent is good at getting made up stories into the MEN and spreading rumours. That's his job. I'm sure McManus is wise to this sort of thing.

I really don't know why people get upset about these things. It will only get more so in the future as more agents become more media savvy.

I am sure Big Mac texts young offiah, sending him a smiley face and a few words like "haha nice one chariots, but the offer still stands, £50k first year, £65k 2nd year and £80k 3rd year and a few £if he get sa gig for GB".... then sends another text about 2 mins later saying "there was a blak man, a white man, and wigooner stood at a bus stop, and the wigooner turns the black fella and says " ......

It's Wigooners wanting us to get all hyped up in the same manner in which they did over Ashton. They expect us to be hypocritical and place the blame for any depatures at the foot of the salary cap. What they don't realise is that we are able to view the salary cap for what it is and not for what they perceive it to be. In their opinion we should be storming the gates of the RFL demanding a change to the cap in the same way they have been harping on about incessantly for the past decade. They can't understand why we aren't responding in the same petulant and ill-conceived way in which many of them have and do. Please note this is not all Wigooners just the short-sighted ones.

How do you come to that conclusion based off the MEN article and this thread?

If it's true drop him for the rest of the season be that 1 match or two, let him go now and get a transfer fee.

If Saints can't get a transfer fee, drop him to the reserves for the entire 2010 season.

Agreed.

If he isn't going to be here in 2011 then we have no loyalty to him. If he is going then put him in the reserves for the year.

Bring Back Matty!

The fact that the initial suggestion that Eastmond was even contemplating going to Yawnion was made by Rogues Gallery i.e. a desperate attempt to undermine Saints via some messageboard comments, which is where most RL transfer stories come from these days e.g. McGoldrick to Wigoon. There's even one from yesterday about Maurie going to Harlequins RL even though he's just moved into a new house in the area. It's nothing new. In the early years of Super League there was constant rumour-mongering started on messageboards by Wigooners about Cunningham going to join Wigoon. He's still here.

The sooner people realise that most of this talk is just rubbish set in motion in public houses and asylums for the mentally insane the better. I mean, I heard a rumour that Maurie was complaining about Potter stifling his natural game yet the guy has improved no end on the back of cutting out the silly 'natural' aspects of his game.

Just for once, why dont you turn off your firefox alarm that rings when anyone mentions salary cap?

Yes, there's lots of rumours on forums but fact that some make regional and national media isn't solely down to the odd Wigan supporter posting on RLFANS.

That's ridiculous, Mike.

It is ridiculous which is why I didn't say that. I mentioned in this thread which was related to Eastmond and IIRC the Eastmond rumour was nothing until someone heard from someone at some function about it i.e. where nothing could be verified or evidenced. Due to said poster having reasonable credibility it somehow transformed into fact. Completely barmy and some Saints fans should hang their heads in shame for believing everything that anyone posts on a messageboard.

It is not uncommon in British RL for rumours to be banded about on RL messageboards that suddenly appear in newspapers both real truths and half-d wind-ups. Throw into that agents working overtime to try and generate extra column inches and wages for their players and you have gossip running amok.

I keep referring to the Cunningham one because it is a classic. First it appears as a throwaway post on a messageboard or overheard in a pub conversation. Next it's gossip amongst the season ticket holder types and then a couple of weeks later my dad has heard it at his pub and before you know it, it's in the press and formal statements are being made about it. Ridiculous.

I can cope with all that, however some people can't and in their quest to satisfy themselves with the latest gossip they increase their gullability susceptibility tenfold.

I can't say if there's any truth in the Eastmond rumours, however it's funny that it starts from a Wigoon poster with no evidence other than "I heard from someone" during the middle of the season when the guy still has another year to run on his contract. Now unless Sale are looking to buy him off us there's no reason why they'd be sniffing around Eastmond at this stage. I suggest that the original post about this might even have been influenced by the fact that Eastmond is small, nippy and black which means he's like Jason Robinson so Sale would be interested in him. Complete madness and he's reeled hundreds in off it whether intentional or not. It's existential trolling of the highest order and I have to salute that. Only Ellery Hanley could have done better.

I was looking for this on a few RU forums, I found it on one Sale site and guess were it was claimed it started?

A Wigan RL supporter.

I found out about it from a guy who coached at Lymm RUFC and who hates RL and everything about it. I'll ask him if he spoke to a Wigan fan 12 months ago

NO WAAAY!!

Tis true, I was that bored in work I decided to see if Sale fans were talking about it.

IF it's a done deal we should be getting that cretin of an agent of his to get rid of him now and maybe get a fee for him. No point wasting money and time on a player who is far from the finished article. We need to bed in a new Scrum half for next year and beyond and if Matty Smith or Kyle arnt the answer we might as well get shut of them.

P.S I dont blame the salary cap - even without it there is no way we could match the money some of the union clubs have , instead we would probably see Kyle off to Goon land or Dire where money is no object it seems