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| Quote ="Tony Stark"I thought the same, in attack at least he's been a shadow of the player he's been, though I suspect this has been as much down to the lack of service and improvements in opposition defence against him.
Graham's omission is frankly bemusing.'"
Gidley still huge threat in attack but never gets any ball.
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| i know dobson has won the albert goldthorpe medal bla bla but i.mo brough is a far better player and deserves to be in there
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Somehow I don't think what Graham said or what he did matters a bit in the decision making, unless the press people have suddenly become soft in the head. He made a good point about players playing in very hot weather last season but was still included in the dream team last year. Sean Long is not the best boy in town but he's won the Lance Todd three times, so methinks your suggestion is garbage.
I believe I know why James Graham was left out. It is because the RFL and the media this season have had a very clear agenda to give other clubs a turn. Leeds would be represented in the dream team whether deserving or not because most of the media blokes are based in Yorkshire. But aside from that, it's all about the 'smaller clubs' this season.
Oh how I would love us to win the Grand Final. As unlikely as it sounds - in fact it sounds positively far fetched - it would be a great finger in the eyeball to all and sundry to see us lift that cup and be called Champions on Sky all next season. Just for the rub it in value. *sigh*'"
You're twisting my melon, man.
You're radio rental.
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| Quote ="Carlos Alberto"You're twisting my melon, man.
You're radio rental.'"
I was in nappies in the 60s, so you'll have to explain yourself if you want me to understand you.
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| Quote ="kendall17"icon_lol.gif Whey, another thread on JG. Fantastic. I actually agree with his omission but cant put my finger on it why. Also, i think Peacock has been good in both attack and defence, although i dont think Morley was a cert. to be in there.
Does more carries mean that JG carried Saints forward and the rest of your props were "hiding"?'"
Morley has been brilliant this year!
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| Clearly should of been Graham, instead of Morley. I reckon he only wasn't to get people talking more.
Also Carmont should of been in ahead of Gidley. Moore hasn't been that impressive this season either, but I can't think of a better hooker with as much game time.
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| aww diddums JG didnt get in the dream team. Take the red vee specs off, Morley and Peacock are genuine world class players who have done it at the highest level. JG makes the most yards pretty much because you have no other fit props so he gets all the hit ups.
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| Quote ="Enicomb"
Also Carmont should of been in ahead of Gidley. .'"
Correct. Gidley has been turd since his contract renewal earlier in the season but dont tell that to the saints "allourplayersareworldclass" fans
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| Quote ="RyanWire"Correct. Gidley has been turd since his contract renewal earlier in the season but dont tell that to the saints "allourplayersareworldclass" fans'"
You are on the Saints board. Did you know that?
Ok. Just wondered.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"You are on the Saints board. Did you know that?
Ok. Just wondered.'"
so? it doesnt matter. You should still be able to accept that not all of your own players are world class and that other teams have great if not better players. Sadly, this inability to do this is prevalent in Saints fans.
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| Quote ="RyanWire"so? it doesnt matter. You should still be able to accept that not all of your own players are world class and that other teams have great if not better players. Sadly, this inability to do this is prevalent in Saints fans.'"
Don't be soft.
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All because he's doing it on his own. Doesn't make him any better. I do think he is an excellent prop, but would be even better in a better pack.
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All because he's doing it on his own. Doesn't make him any better. I do think he is an excellent prop, but would be even better in a better pack.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"And? Playing prop isn't about metres per carry if you hide and don't make many hit ups.
If Morley and Graham had done the same amount of carries as each other it would be the deciding stat, but all your change of emphasis does is make me question whether Morley works hard enough, given that his team are 10th in SL and absolutely terrible.'"
Proving yet again what an abosolutely clueless tool you are.
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| Quote ="Timmy the Koi"All because he's doing it on his own. Doesn't make him any better. I do think he is an excellent prop, but would be even better in a better pack.'"
I'd like to see either Moz or Peacock do it on their own! They'd be pooped.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Don't be soft.'"
are you a fooking moron
So are you seriously telling me that you cant accept that other players are great if they dont play for you. No wonder the Saint fans have reputations as complete tits with people like you knocking about
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| Quote ="RyanWire"are you a fooking moron '"
Stop looking at yourself in the mirror. People will start to talk about you.
Quote So are you seriously telling me that you cant accept that other players are great if they dont play for you. No wonder the Saint fans have reputations as complete tits with people like you knocking about'"
I haven't said a thing about other players to you but if you want to go off on one then why not spit all over your own board instead of on here? Your insecurity is tedious.
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| STOP FCUKING FLIRTING GIRLS
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"I'd like to see either Moz or Peacock do it on their own! They'd be pooped.'"
But this is my point. He shouldn't be doing it alone. Its amazing he hasn't just keeled over at some point, but i don't think he plays as a prop and maybe his future doesn't lie there. He is almost a loose forward, a big ball playing loose forward at that, but he doesn't have the running and big hit impact he could have if he was spelled properly. No world class prop should be doing 80mins at the speed we currently play the game, as you just can't keep it going intensely enough. Thats the impressive thing i suppose, but he could be at risk of blowing out too early at this rate. Enough Saints praising, i feel ill Thats why our pack has been so successful this year, because of the way we've been able to rotate our forwards properly, and i've no doubt it played a massive part in our Cup win (yeah it was us in case we haven't reminded you guys enough ). I'd reckon that Carvell wasn't far behind in the running either.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"
I haven't said a thing about other players to you but if you want to go off on one then why not spit all over your own board instead of on here? Your insecurity is tedious.'"
Insecurity?
My side is on the up, just won a cup (and Im a poet) while playing expansive attractive rugby and signing great players and has a great international quality coach with a history of success. Your side is in transition (code for gonna be $hit soon), hasnt won sod all this season and is unlikely too and is letting high paid players go but not replacing them with quality and has the most uncharismatic dour dull coach in the history of the game. Gee, how insecure am I.
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| Quote ="RyanWire"Insecurity?
My side is on the up, just won a cup (and Im a poet) while playing expansive attractive rugby and signing great players and has a great international quality coach with a history of success. Your side is in transition (code for gonna be $hit soon), hasnt won sod all this season and is unlikely too and is letting high paid players go but not replacing them with quality and has the most uncharismatic dour dull coach in the history of the game. Gee, how insecure am I.'"
Is that what Richie Mathers was doing 2 weeks ago against HKR?
We'll keep our side....that continues to dick you each and every season....back in yer box
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| Quote ="RyanWire"Insecurity?
My side is on the up, just won a cup (and Im a poet) while playing expansive attractive rugby and signing great players and has a great international quality coach with a history of success. Your side is in transition (code for gonna be $hit soon), hasnt won sod all this season and is unlikely too and is letting high paid players go but not replacing them with quality and has the most uncharismatic dour dull coach in the history of the game. Gee, how insecure am I.'"
10th Place. Congratulations!
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| Quote =".Alice."10th Place. Congratulations!'"
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| Quote ="tm - tl"
We'll keep our poop side....that continues to dick you each and every season....back in yer box'"
and what did you win for that
Seriously fella, your not that stupid I know that. Cant you accept that your team is on the decline? The fact that you towel us year in year out doesnt hide that
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| Quote ="RyanWire"'"
Been cringeing reading some of these posts of yours mate, but full marks for a come back
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| Quote ="RyanWire"and what did you win for that
Seriously fella, your not that stupid I know that. Cant you accept that your team is on the decline? The fact that you towel us year in year out doesnt hide that'"
We're in transistion, just as Wire have been since 1991.... If we're counting the Regal Trophy, are we?
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